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	<title>Comments on: Linux and Solaris - common ground ahead?</title>
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		<title>By: Snow</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/101#comment-91826</link>
		<dc:creator>Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 04:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,

If there is going to be deeper collaboration between the Sun community and the Linux community, do you ever see Canonical packaging Ubuntu with the Solaris kernel (which would include ZFS, Zones, Dtrace, etc)?  I heard you mention in a talk that the Linux kernel does not have a framework that easily allows new drivers to be hooked in yet other kernels support this in a much better way.  Would this be an opportunity to pilot test an Ubuntu distribution with the Solaris kernel at its heart?  I know the Nexenta project is doing just this, but it would be far better distribution if Sun and Canonical worked together on it.  Thoughts?

Snow

&lt;strong&gt;Mark Shuttleworth says:&lt;/strong&gt;

That would be a very interesting combination. For the moment, though, Linux is all the kernel we need. If rumours of Sun's plans to GPL OpenSolaris are true, then ZFS and Dtrace etc will quickly be available on Linux too. We can keep an eye on OpenSolaris, and if the community embraces it widely then it would be reasonable for us to reflect that in Ubuntu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>If there is going to be deeper collaboration between the Sun community and the Linux community, do you ever see Canonical packaging Ubuntu with the Solaris kernel (which would include ZFS, Zones, Dtrace, etc)?  I heard you mention in a talk that the Linux kernel does not have a framework that easily allows new drivers to be hooked in yet other kernels support this in a much better way.  Would this be an opportunity to pilot test an Ubuntu distribution with the Solaris kernel at its heart?  I know the Nexenta project is doing just this, but it would be far better distribution if Sun and Canonical worked together on it.  Thoughts?</p>
<p>Snow</p>
<p><strong>Mark Shuttleworth says:</strong></p>
<p>That would be a very interesting combination. For the moment, though, Linux is all the kernel we need. If rumours of Sun&#8217;s plans to GPL OpenSolaris are true, then ZFS and Dtrace etc will quickly be available on Linux too. We can keep an eye on OpenSolaris, and if the community embraces it widely then it would be reasonable for us to reflect that in Ubuntu.</p>
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		<title>By: Linux 4U &#187; Il papà di Debian assunto da Sun</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/101#comment-66231</link>
		<dc:creator>Linux 4U &#187; Il papà di Debian assunto da Sun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mr Debian continua a stupire. Dopo aver pubblicamente ammesso di utilizzare Ubuntu, Ian Murdock ha annunciato sul suo blog una notizia importante: il passaggio a Sun Microsystem. Ian ha dichiarato di essere da sempre un fan di Solaris e di apprezzare molto le scelte fatte da Sun negli ultimi anni. Ora il compito principale di Murdock consisterà nel colmare il gap in termini di usabilità di Solaris rispetto a Gnu/Linux facendo diventare il sistema operativo della Sun un &#8220;concorrente&#8221; del pinguino innovativo e adatto agli utenti. Il neonato sodalizio con Sun ha come diretta conseguenza l&#8217;abbandono della Linux Foundation da parte di Murdock che comunque continuerà presiedere la Linux Standard Base. Congratulazioni sono arrivate da Mark Shuttleworth che tuttavia non ha mancato di notare come la Linux Foundation abbia bisogno al più presto di trovare un valido sostituto, cosa non proprio facilissima viste le qualità di Ian Murdock. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mr Debian continua a stupire. Dopo aver pubblicamente ammesso di utilizzare Ubuntu, Ian Murdock ha annunciato sul suo blog una notizia importante: il passaggio a Sun Microsystem. Ian ha dichiarato di essere da sempre un fan di Solaris e di apprezzare molto le scelte fatte da Sun negli ultimi anni. Ora il compito principale di Murdock consisterà nel colmare il gap in termini di usabilità di Solaris rispetto a Gnu/Linux facendo diventare il sistema operativo della Sun un &#8220;concorrente&#8221; del pinguino innovativo e adatto agli utenti. Il neonato sodalizio con Sun ha come diretta conseguenza l&#8217;abbandono della Linux Foundation da parte di Murdock che comunque continuerà presiedere la Linux Standard Base. Congratulazioni sono arrivate da Mark Shuttleworth che tuttavia non ha mancato di notare come la Linux Foundation abbia bisogno al più presto di trovare un valido sostituto, cosa non proprio facilissima viste le qualità di Ian Murdock. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: James LaRue</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/101#comment-64198</link>
		<dc:creator>James LaRue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 16:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Carter, I clicked on the the linuxpersonas link and got:

"This material is being updated and will be made available to Microsoft partners shortly." Thanks for outing them! But I'm sorry to have missed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Carter, I clicked on the the linuxpersonas link and got:</p>
<p>&#8220;This material is being updated and will be made available to Microsoft partners shortly.&#8221; Thanks for outing them! But I&#8217;m sorry to have missed it.</p>
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		<title>By: David Mackey</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/101#comment-63961</link>
		<dc:creator>David Mackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty exciting stuff. Will be interesting to see what happens with Solaris being open source these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty exciting stuff. Will be interesting to see what happens with Solaris being open source these days.</p>
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		<title>By: A</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/101#comment-63478</link>
		<dc:creator>A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Points to ponder:

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2006112417153768
http://news.com.com/Gosling+questions+Sun-Microsoft+pact/2100-1012_3-5562109.html

Wise ones would do well to stick with Linux.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Points to ponder:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2006112417153768" rel="nofollow">http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2006112417153768</a><br />
<a href="http://news.com.com/Gosling+questions+Sun-Microsoft+pact/2100-1012_3-5562109.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.com.com/Gosling+questions+Sun-Microsoft+pact/2100-1012_3-5562109.html</a></p>
<p>Wise ones would do well to stick with Linux.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark McCoy</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/101#comment-63167</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark McCoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62; And maybe… Instead of Dell’s, we’ll see Sun’s PCs on the market, with Linux preinstalled.

You can already buy Sun PC's and x86 servers with Linux preinstalled.  Your choice, SLES, RHEL (3 or 4), and you can install Ubuntu on the UltraSPARC T1 (Niagara) servers after the fact as well.  OK, the last isn't preinstalled, but it is pretty flippin cool, nonetheless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; And maybe… Instead of Dell’s, we’ll see Sun’s PCs on the market, with Linux preinstalled.</p>
<p>You can already buy Sun PC&#8217;s and x86 servers with Linux preinstalled.  Your choice, SLES, RHEL (3 or 4), and you can install Ubuntu on the UltraSPARC T1 (Niagara) servers after the fact as well.  OK, the last isn&#8217;t preinstalled, but it is pretty flippin cool, nonetheless.</p>
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		<title>By: Ubuntu &#124; Thom May: Ian Murdock and Sun</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/101#comment-62876</link>
		<dc:creator>Ubuntu &#124; Thom May: Ian Murdock and Sun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 06:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This is what I just wrote on Mark&#8217;s blog about Ian&#8217;s move to Sun: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This is what I just wrote on Mark&#8217;s blog about Ian&#8217;s move to Sun: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Simone Brunozzi</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/101#comment-62582</link>
		<dc:creator>Simone Brunozzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Ian at Sun is wonderful news!
I hope he'll be able to reunite various linuxes and sun under one umbrella. And maybe... Instead of Dell's, we'll see Sun's PCs on the market, with Linux preinstalled. :-)
And, obviously, many other things as well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Ian at Sun is wonderful news!<br />
I hope he&#8217;ll be able to reunite various linuxes and sun under one umbrella. And maybe&#8230; Instead of Dell&#8217;s, we&#8217;ll see Sun&#8217;s PCs on the market, with Linux preinstalled. <img src='http://www.markshuttleworth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
And, obviously, many other things as well!</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Clarke</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/101#comment-62454</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 09:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark,
    I couldn't agree with your title any more, a quick look at Nexenta (http://www.gnusolaris.org) shows what is really possible with the merging of to of the best systems around. All the latest Solaris 10 goodies (FireEngine, DTrace, Zones etc.) with the Ubuntu derived GNU packages.

It's a lttle out of date, but hopefully they'll resync after Feisty, Erast and crowd are doing lots of good work in that department.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark,<br />
    I couldn&#8217;t agree with your title any more, a quick look at Nexenta (http://www.gnusolaris.org) shows what is really possible with the merging of to of the best systems around. All the latest Solaris 10 goodies (FireEngine, DTrace, Zones etc.) with the Ubuntu derived GNU packages.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a lttle out of date, but hopefully they&#8217;ll resync after Feisty, Erast and crowd are doing lots of good work in that department.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Carter</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/101#comment-62420</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 07:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is good news for Nexenta too. I think it's quite cool that Sun is taking on some more free software heavyweights. 

A bit off topic, I just took a look at http://www.linuxpersonas.com/ yet? It's an evil Microsoft website where they explain how to target existing Linux users and migrate them to Microsoft products. As evil as it is, it's an interesting marketing concept. It also shows that, even after the Microsoft-Novell deal, Microsoft is still blatantly anti-Linux, especially with a front page that says "Winning against Linux the smart way".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is good news for Nexenta too. I think it&#8217;s quite cool that Sun is taking on some more free software heavyweights. </p>
<p>A bit off topic, I just took a look at <a href="http://www.linuxpersonas.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.linuxpersonas.com/</a> yet? It&#8217;s an evil Microsoft website where they explain how to target existing Linux users and migrate them to Microsoft products. As evil as it is, it&#8217;s an interesting marketing concept. It also shows that, even after the Microsoft-Novell deal, Microsoft is still blatantly anti-Linux, especially with a front page that says &#8220;Winning against Linux the smart way&#8221;.</p>
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