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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/103/comment-page-1#comment-182164</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 07:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, its a long shot Mark, but Im looking for intallation, development, rollout and support information for SchoolTool in South Africa. Is it still actively in development, and do you know if there are any schools or educational organisations using it in Cape Town or South Africa?

We&#039;ve been asked to provide a CMS for a school in Rondebosch, and I immediately thought of SchoolTool as a solution to the bigger problem of content syndication. We&#039;re a small digital design studio, and I&#039;d like to explore the option of SchoolTool.

Any extra info you have would be appreciated.

Thanks,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, its a long shot Mark, but Im looking for intallation, development, rollout and support information for SchoolTool in South Africa. Is it still actively in development, and do you know if there are any schools or educational organisations using it in Cape Town or South Africa?</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been asked to provide a CMS for a school in Rondebosch, and I immediately thought of SchoolTool as a solution to the bigger problem of content syndication. We&#8217;re a small digital design studio, and I&#8217;d like to explore the option of SchoolTool.</p>
<p>Any extra info you have would be appreciated.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
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		<title>By: Closed versus Open Source: Ubuntu and Launchpad</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/103/comment-page-1#comment-130453</link>
		<dc:creator>Closed versus Open Source: Ubuntu and Launchpad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] came word from Mark Shuttleworth that Ubuntu is slowly opening Launchpad&#8217;s code. In response to a question from someone leaving a comment, Shuttleworth added: We are steadily [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] came word from Mark Shuttleworth that Ubuntu is slowly opening Launchpad&#8217;s code. In response to a question from someone leaving a comment, Shuttleworth added: We are steadily [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dusty</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/103/comment-page-1#comment-72653</link>
		<dc:creator>Dusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 11:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; open source projects should all get synchronised and use launchpad and all live in the happy ubuntu tree?
&gt;&gt; You’ll excuse me if i dont follow the ubuntu sheep….
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; This is just some more proof mark is a moron who doesn’t get it.
&gt; Gosh, Gareth.
&gt;
&gt; Last year I made a sizeable donation to the OpenBSD project to help it survive - was that also a sign that I&#039;m a &quot;moron who doesn&#039;t get it&quot;?
&gt;
&gt; This sort of comment doesn&#039;t exactly do your cause any good whatsoever.
&gt;
&gt; Mark

Hi Mark

Firstly i would like to apologise for the tone of my comment. I did not mean to be rude and I appreciate you taking the time to respond.

While I&#039;m sure the OpenBSD project appreciates your support, this does, in no way, change my opinion of your continued launchpad advocacy.
My main problem with launchpad is what i see as the larger problem of the centralization and monolithism of opensource projects recently.

In addition launchpad is not completely open source and using your position and prestige within the community it is successfully being promoted as an alternative to existing open source projects. As a firm supporter of the opensource community, you can understand my frustration at the decision.
It would be more beneficial, even more so than money, for you to use your position and prestige to force launchpad into being entirely opensource, even as a condition for ubuntu to use it. However a preferred alternative would be to promote an existing opensource project which has equivalent or nearly equivalent functionality.

Anyway, Mark, I feel that despite our disagreements on the way forward for open source, you will do the right thing for the opensource community at large.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; open source projects should all get synchronised and use launchpad and all live in the happy ubuntu tree?<br />
&gt;&gt; You’ll excuse me if i dont follow the ubuntu sheep….<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; This is just some more proof mark is a moron who doesn’t get it.<br />
&gt; Gosh, Gareth.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Last year I made a sizeable donation to the OpenBSD project to help it survive &#8211; was that also a sign that I&#8217;m a &#8220;moron who doesn&#8217;t get it&#8221;?<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; This sort of comment doesn&#8217;t exactly do your cause any good whatsoever.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Mark</p>
<p>Hi Mark</p>
<p>Firstly i would like to apologise for the tone of my comment. I did not mean to be rude and I appreciate you taking the time to respond.</p>
<p>While I&#8217;m sure the OpenBSD project appreciates your support, this does, in no way, change my opinion of your continued launchpad advocacy.<br />
My main problem with launchpad is what i see as the larger problem of the centralization and monolithism of opensource projects recently.</p>
<p>In addition launchpad is not completely open source and using your position and prestige within the community it is successfully being promoted as an alternative to existing open source projects. As a firm supporter of the opensource community, you can understand my frustration at the decision.<br />
It would be more beneficial, even more so than money, for you to use your position and prestige to force launchpad into being entirely opensource, even as a condition for ubuntu to use it. However a preferred alternative would be to promote an existing opensource project which has equivalent or nearly equivalent functionality.</p>
<p>Anyway, Mark, I feel that despite our disagreements on the way forward for open source, you will do the right thing for the opensource community at large.</p>
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		<title>By: FreeSoftNews &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ubuntu Weekly News: Issue #35</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/103/comment-page-1#comment-72333</link>
		<dc:creator>FreeSoftNews &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ubuntu Weekly News: Issue #35</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 18:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Canonical has started public beta testing of Launchpad 1.0. Launchpad is a web application that helps track communications between many free software communities. With the tool, its possible to coordinate and collaborate work among projects that have shared code. Launchpad features an interface that allows branding and emphasizes current activity of projects. Launchpad allows for team management, tracking bugs, hosting code, translations, feature and ideas tracking, and community support. Besides Ubuntu, well known projects like Zope, SilverCMS, and Jokosher use Launchpad. Read more: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/LaunchpadRelease (official press release), http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/103 (Mark Shuttleworth&#8217;s blog) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Canonical has started public beta testing of Launchpad 1.0. Launchpad is a web application that helps track communications between many free software communities. With the tool, its possible to coordinate and collaborate work among projects that have shared code. Launchpad features an interface that allows branding and emphasizes current activity of projects. Launchpad allows for team management, tracking bugs, hosting code, translations, feature and ideas tracking, and community support. Besides Ubuntu, well known projects like Zope, SilverCMS, and Jokosher use Launchpad. Read more: <a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/news/LaunchpadRelease" rel="nofollow">http://www.ubuntu.com/news/LaunchpadRelease</a> (official press release), <a href="http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/103" rel="nofollow">http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/103</a> (Mark Shuttleworth&#8217;s blog) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lucifiel</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/103/comment-page-1#comment-70985</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucifiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 00:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and one more thing: you REALLY need to add in a section for Suggestions and Requests for features at launchpad.net  

Ubuntu is awesome but plenty of users at the forums have long been complaining about not being able to feedback their thoughts to the developers about certain features. Filing a feature as a bug is okay but wouldn&#039;t it better to have a section where people can file their suggestions and so on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and one more thing: you REALLY need to add in a section for Suggestions and Requests for features at launchpad.net  </p>
<p>Ubuntu is awesome but plenty of users at the forums have long been complaining about not being able to feedback their thoughts to the developers about certain features. Filing a feature as a bug is okay but wouldn&#8217;t it better to have a section where people can file their suggestions and so on?</p>
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		<title>By: Lucifiel</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/103/comment-page-1#comment-70791</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucifiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 13:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s awesome. Though, more could be done to improve its&#039; interface(easier to report bugs, etc.) as there&#039;s Ubuntu, Linux-source 6.2.20 and Feisty. What this means is that: save for the seasoned bug reporter, a new user would likely not know where to file in a report. Furthermore, even if said user asked in #launchpad on freenode for advice, it&#039;s often confusing. When a user submits a bug report, there has to be a guide that explains what data to submit, where to find the required data, and what system information to submit and even where to file a report. Simply asking a user to look at launchpad.net for some guide does not help matters especially if user is a Linux newbie or very new to reporting bugs. 

Finally, it&#039;d be easier if Ubuntu had tools for collecting data from crashes instead of requiring the user to go on a wild goose chase of checking System Logs, searching the File System for every bit of reference to said error message, running commands from Terminal, etc. After all, if the process of bug-reporting is too difficult, this means that plenty of problems go unreported. 

Note: I&#039;m a Linux newbie but I&#039;ve done QAing for a freeware game project before and hence, have a slight idea about how difficult it is to report a bug and for the developers to fix it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s awesome. Though, more could be done to improve its&#8217; interface(easier to report bugs, etc.) as there&#8217;s Ubuntu, Linux-source 6.2.20 and Feisty. What this means is that: save for the seasoned bug reporter, a new user would likely not know where to file in a report. Furthermore, even if said user asked in #launchpad on freenode for advice, it&#8217;s often confusing. When a user submits a bug report, there has to be a guide that explains what data to submit, where to find the required data, and what system information to submit and even where to file a report. Simply asking a user to look at launchpad.net for some guide does not help matters especially if user is a Linux newbie or very new to reporting bugs. </p>
<p>Finally, it&#8217;d be easier if Ubuntu had tools for collecting data from crashes instead of requiring the user to go on a wild goose chase of checking System Logs, searching the File System for every bit of reference to said error message, running commands from Terminal, etc. After all, if the process of bug-reporting is too difficult, this means that plenty of problems go unreported. </p>
<p>Note: I&#8217;m a Linux newbie but I&#8217;ve done QAing for a freeware game project before and hence, have a slight idea about how difficult it is to report a bug and for the developers to fix it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lanie</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/103/comment-page-1#comment-70010</link>
		<dc:creator>Lanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 19:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark, do you have an e-mail address or on yahoo messenger? Thanks, Lanie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark, do you have an e-mail address or on yahoo messenger? Thanks, Lanie</p>
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		<title>By: New face of Launchpad revealed! at SoftSaurus</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/103/comment-page-1#comment-69849</link>
		<dc:creator>New face of Launchpad revealed! at SoftSaurus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 12:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mark Shuttleworth has more to say on the subject. If you&#8217;ve got any feedback about Launchpad, come join us in #launchpad on irc.freenode.net or sign up to the launchpad-users mailing list! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mark Shuttleworth has more to say on the subject. If you&#8217;ve got any feedback about Launchpad, come join us in #launchpad on irc.freenode.net or sign up to the launchpad-users mailing list! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Zakaria</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/103/comment-page-1#comment-69815</link>
		<dc:creator>Zakaria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 10:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have one BIG issues with launchpad. It uses of https everywhere, it really slow it down here in Indonesia because it can not be cached by proxy.

Today I want to report that the feisty server beta doesn&#039;t work on IBM System x3650 Type 7979 with everything on LVM. It got hardware raid. It works fine on dapper or edgy. But because the slowness on https I can not even search wheter that bug has been submitted or not.

Sad, sad, sad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have one BIG issues with launchpad. It uses of https everywhere, it really slow it down here in Indonesia because it can not be cached by proxy.</p>
<p>Today I want to report that the feisty server beta doesn&#8217;t work on IBM System x3650 Type 7979 with everything on LVM. It got hardware raid. It works fine on dapper or edgy. But because the slowness on https I can not even search wheter that bug has been submitted or not.</p>
<p>Sad, sad, sad</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/103/comment-page-1#comment-69372</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 17:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know much about collaborative application development, but this site&#039;s totally awesome !
The graphics are really great and the usability seems to have been greatly improved from I&#039;ve seen. Another great job :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know much about collaborative application development, but this site&#8217;s totally awesome !<br />
The graphics are really great and the usability seems to have been greatly improved from I&#8217;ve seen. Another great job <img src='http://www.markshuttleworth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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