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	<title>Comments on: Amazon search results in the Dash</title>
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		<title>By: Kanishk</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1182/comment-page-5#comment-397208</link>
		<dc:creator>Kanishk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 12:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Integrate tribler in unity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Integrate tribler in unity.</p>
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		<title>By: J.I. Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1182/comment-page-5#comment-397196</link>
		<dc:creator>J.I. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 09:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, no! That sounds awful. I may have to move from Ubuntu if it keeps moving in the prevailing direction. Amazon is a big enough behemoth on the web already (and, incidentally, pays no UK tax) without being further supported by supposedly freedom-loving OSes like Ubuntu. Monopoly (or even, to a lesser extent, oligopoly) is not freedom!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, no! That sounds awful. I may have to move from Ubuntu if it keeps moving in the prevailing direction. Amazon is a big enough behemoth on the web already (and, incidentally, pays no UK tax) without being further supported by supposedly freedom-loving OSes like Ubuntu. Monopoly (or even, to a lesser extent, oligopoly) is not freedom!</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1182/comment-page-5#comment-397137</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 17:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ahhh little mistake... meant the online accounts instead of the online contacts..

one more try.. what about connecting the dash-search to the gnome online accounts in future? could be interesting ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahhh little mistake&#8230; meant the online accounts instead of the online contacts..</p>
<p>one more try.. what about connecting the dash-search to the gnome online accounts in future? could be interesting <img src='http://www.markshuttleworth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Canonical performs u-turn over Amazon search results in Ubuntu &#124; Technology News</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1182/comment-page-5#comment-397131</link>
		<dc:creator>Canonical performs u-turn over Amazon search results in Ubuntu &#124; Technology News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] chief Mark Shuttleworth defended the move last Sunday, saying the firm was &#8220;not putting ads in Ubuntu&#8221; as the returned results were not paid for, and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] chief Mark Shuttleworth defended the move last Sunday, saying the firm was &#8220;not putting ads in Ubuntu&#8221; as the returned results were not paid for, and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ubuntu 12.10 &#171;&#160;Quantal Quetzal&#160;&#187;: ya esta disponible la segunda BETA &#124; Gustavo Pimentel&#039;s GNU/Linux Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1182/comment-page-5#comment-397124</link>
		<dc:creator>Ubuntu 12.10 &#171;&#160;Quantal Quetzal&#160;&#187;: ya esta disponible la segunda BETA &#124; Gustavo Pimentel&#039;s GNU/Linux Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 15:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] que no fué del gusto de todo el mundo, y que se agravara con unas explicaciones algo tortuosas de Mark Shuttleworth en su blog negando todo y sobretodo jugando con los términos, generando una idea que huele a Azufre. Con lo [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] que no fué del gusto de todo el mundo, y que se agravara con unas explicaciones algo tortuosas de Mark Shuttleworth en su blog negando todo y sobretodo jugando con los términos, generando una idea que huele a Azufre. Con lo [...]</p>
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		<title>By: cosmix</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1182/comment-page-5#comment-397106</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the biggest gripes I&#039;ve had with Unity, before dropping it completely, was that I found the &#039;lens-based&#039; approach to be a regression to existing, successful and vastly superior versions of &#039;desktop&#039; search, viz. Spotlight and variants on OS X, where the user by default searches for &#039;everything&#039; ala Home Lens (only in that case it includes the contents and metadata of files, indexed almost immediately after the files are added to the filesystem) and the query is handled lightning fast with a well-sorted, grouped set of results. 

In Unity, and in practically every other variant of desktop linux, this feature has never matured to a state where it could be considered useful on a daily basis, be it due to the flaws of the indexing subsystems and the associated drain on resources (viz. early attempts, like Beagle), the flaws in the UI design, the lack of proper integration with the file management tools etc. I always found &#039;lenses&#039; are a poor conceptual choice as they introduce an additional user action, making search less direct and intuitive. Microsoft made the same mistake in Windows 8.

Obviously there is an extensibility aspect to lenses and I&#039;m sure they (could) play a useful role as an indexing/backend API, allowing developers to write &#039;reader plugins&#039; for the framework, but exposing them as first-level user-interface elements seems contrary to the simplicity and elegance that Unity claims to represent. 

I don&#039;t think having the *choice* of Amazon results is bad per se, but it does demonstrate how Canonical is still not focusing on creating a useful, fast and innovative desktop platform, but maintaining balances between hype, profitability and the open-source paradigm. And while the success of the product and company are admirable, I wish you could focus more on creating an advanced, open ecosystem with extremely solid open-source foundations that&#039;s truly world-leading, instead of marginally useful stints like Amazon results in Unity.

Having a &#039;smart&#039; universal Spotlight-like search instead of dozens of &#039;lens&#039; buttons should be a top level priority. Providing the  option for users to choose what the Home lens searches or making sure that internet/network searches are secure are not  &#039;user wishes&#039; occupying in a long and dusty wishlist, they are fundamental parts of the search function that should be included in the first release.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the biggest gripes I&#8217;ve had with Unity, before dropping it completely, was that I found the &#8216;lens-based&#8217; approach to be a regression to existing, successful and vastly superior versions of &#8216;desktop&#8217; search, viz. Spotlight and variants on OS X, where the user by default searches for &#8216;everything&#8217; ala Home Lens (only in that case it includes the contents and metadata of files, indexed almost immediately after the files are added to the filesystem) and the query is handled lightning fast with a well-sorted, grouped set of results. </p>
<p>In Unity, and in practically every other variant of desktop linux, this feature has never matured to a state where it could be considered useful on a daily basis, be it due to the flaws of the indexing subsystems and the associated drain on resources (viz. early attempts, like Beagle), the flaws in the UI design, the lack of proper integration with the file management tools etc. I always found &#8216;lenses&#8217; are a poor conceptual choice as they introduce an additional user action, making search less direct and intuitive. Microsoft made the same mistake in Windows 8.</p>
<p>Obviously there is an extensibility aspect to lenses and I&#8217;m sure they (could) play a useful role as an indexing/backend API, allowing developers to write &#8216;reader plugins&#8217; for the framework, but exposing them as first-level user-interface elements seems contrary to the simplicity and elegance that Unity claims to represent. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think having the *choice* of Amazon results is bad per se, but it does demonstrate how Canonical is still not focusing on creating a useful, fast and innovative desktop platform, but maintaining balances between hype, profitability and the open-source paradigm. And while the success of the product and company are admirable, I wish you could focus more on creating an advanced, open ecosystem with extremely solid open-source foundations that&#8217;s truly world-leading, instead of marginally useful stints like Amazon results in Unity.</p>
<p>Having a &#8216;smart&#8217; universal Spotlight-like search instead of dozens of &#8216;lens&#8217; buttons should be a top level priority. Providing the  option for users to choose what the Home lens searches or making sure that internet/network searches are secure are not  &#8216;user wishes&#8217; occupying in a long and dusty wishlist, they are fundamental parts of the search function that should be included in the first release.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Knight</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1182/comment-page-5#comment-397090</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 09:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr Shuttleworth,

I don&#039;t like complaining about something without having offered an alternative.

Might I put forward the following to you.

We already have Ubuntu One through which I am now buying my music; I use it because it is part of the spirit of Ubuntu and I hope that my purchases there go a little way towards supporting Canonical.

Why not make an &quot;Ubuntu Shop,&quot; which effectively does the same thing as you wanted to add in to the lens.

By having something like this, which I know would support Ubuntu, I&#039;d be more inclined to use it as a first stop for my on-line shopping; and given what I know about my own behaviour I would only be likely to shop outside this if I found the prices to be unreasonable. 

As it is then in Canonicals control, other merchants can join the store, just like other merchants operate through Amazon now.

I think that initially, suppliers like clothing stores that offer Ubuntu branded goods, people who sell computer hardware, etc. might be attracted by the Ubuntu user base as potential customers, especially if locality can be utilised; eg. merchants only appear who are willing to deliver to various countries, because there is nothing more annoying than trying to order something from Amazon.com to be told that they don&#039;t ship to the UK, while others do.

I feel that there is potential here for an actual improvement on on-line shopping, and done through Ubuntu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr Shuttleworth,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like complaining about something without having offered an alternative.</p>
<p>Might I put forward the following to you.</p>
<p>We already have Ubuntu One through which I am now buying my music; I use it because it is part of the spirit of Ubuntu and I hope that my purchases there go a little way towards supporting Canonical.</p>
<p>Why not make an &#8220;Ubuntu Shop,&#8221; which effectively does the same thing as you wanted to add in to the lens.</p>
<p>By having something like this, which I know would support Ubuntu, I&#8217;d be more inclined to use it as a first stop for my on-line shopping; and given what I know about my own behaviour I would only be likely to shop outside this if I found the prices to be unreasonable. </p>
<p>As it is then in Canonicals control, other merchants can join the store, just like other merchants operate through Amazon now.</p>
<p>I think that initially, suppliers like clothing stores that offer Ubuntu branded goods, people who sell computer hardware, etc. might be attracted by the Ubuntu user base as potential customers, especially if locality can be utilised; eg. merchants only appear who are willing to deliver to various countries, because there is nothing more annoying than trying to order something from Amazon.com to be told that they don&#8217;t ship to the UK, while others do.</p>
<p>I feel that there is potential here for an actual improvement on on-line shopping, and done through Ubuntu.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1182/comment-page-5#comment-397081</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 07:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@b0b_ze

There is an &quot;opt-out&quot;.</description>
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<p>There is an &#8220;opt-out&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Effenberg0x0</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1182/comment-page-5#comment-397072</link>
		<dc:creator>Effenberg0x0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 06:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One example: Where&#039;s my doc from the &quot;National American Insurance Company&quot; (NAICO). Saecrh the dash for NAICO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One example: Where&#8217;s my doc from the &#8220;National American Insurance Company&#8221; (NAICO). Saecrh the dash for NAICO.</p>
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		<title>By: Die Woche: Ubuntu und der Kommerz &#124; virtualfiles.net</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1182/comment-page-5#comment-397069</link>
		<dc:creator>Die Woche: Ubuntu und der Kommerz &#124; virtualfiles.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 05:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] aber trotzdem, und den Grund dafür liefert Ubuntu-Sponsor Mark Shuttleworth ausgerechnet in seiner Verteidigung der Amazon-Suchergebnisse im Dash. Da spricht er nämlich davon, dass die Amazon-Links nur der erste Schritt sind, die [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] aber trotzdem, und den Grund dafür liefert Ubuntu-Sponsor Mark Shuttleworth ausgerechnet in seiner Verteidigung der Amazon-Suchergebnisse im Dash. Da spricht er nämlich davon, dass die Amazon-Links nur der erste Schritt sind, die [...]</p>
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