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	<title>Comments on: A community approach to commercial training materials</title>
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	<description>Planetary perspectives</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 16:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Open Source Strategies, Open Source Personalities, Ubuntu Documentation, SugarCRM CEO interview: links 28-12-200 &#124; Commercial Open Source Software</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/134#comment-296154</link>
		<dc:creator>Open Source Strategies, Open Source Personalities, Ubuntu Documentation, SugarCRM CEO interview: links 28-12-200 &#124; Commercial Open Source Software</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/134#comment-296154</guid>
		<description>[...] and Taking - Digium&#8217;s strategy on licensing unleashed. A community approach to commercial training materials - Mark Shuttleworth on Ubuntu&#8217;s approach to create training [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] and Taking - Digium&#8217;s strategy on licensing unleashed. A community approach to commercial training materials - Mark Shuttleworth on Ubuntu&#8217;s approach to create training [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: shirish</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/134#comment-268056</link>
		<dc:creator>shirish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 03:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/134#comment-268056</guid>
		<description>Does anybody know where I can get the 'daily pdf' . I just want to take a snapshot so I know what's in it. Downloading 700 MB is a big pain then 70 MB. Atleast in the beginning when one isn't sure if this is something where one can contribute. I'm sure there are many others like me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anybody know where I can get the &#8216;daily pdf&#8217; . I just want to take a snapshot so I know what&#8217;s in it. Downloading 700 MB is a big pain then 70 MB. Atleast in the beginning when one isn&#8217;t sure if this is something where one can contribute. I&#8217;m sure there are many others like me.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Clift</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/134#comment-257669</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Clift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/134#comment-257669</guid>
		<description>Still a few weeks away from a first usable release, but soon there will be a free software tool for creating multimedia training.

Like RoboDemo, Captivate, CamStudio, as mentioned by Carlo Gandolfi above:

  http://www.flameproject.org

The project and website will be renamed to www.salasaga.org before this release, as "Flame" is used by other (trademarked) products it turns out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still a few weeks away from a first usable release, but soon there will be a free software tool for creating multimedia training.</p>
<p>Like RoboDemo, Captivate, CamStudio, as mentioned by Carlo Gandolfi above:</p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.flameproject.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.flameproject.org</a></p>
<p>The project and website will be renamed to <a href="http://www.salasaga.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.salasaga.org</a> before this release, as &#8220;Flame&#8221; is used by other (trademarked) products it turns out.</p>
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		<title>By: César R.</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/134#comment-244068</link>
		<dc:creator>César R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/134#comment-244068</guid>
		<description>So if I want to run a course in a public university/school for training some people (teachers, administrators, students) to use Ubuntu, and no one pay for being in this course (but the school fees) and the school pay me because I work in the institution in many different computer related ways (say technical support, maintenance, etc.)...

...am I violating the license for doing the training and offering the material free as in beer (trough internet or other inexpensive ways)?.

I commonly understand the CC licenses but this one confuse me some times.

Anyway, for personal learning this is a huge contribution by Canonical for us. Thank you so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if I want to run a course in a public university/school for training some people (teachers, administrators, students) to use Ubuntu, and no one pay for being in this course (but the school fees) and the school pay me because I work in the institution in many different computer related ways (say technical support, maintenance, etc.)&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;am I violating the license for doing the training and offering the material free as in beer (trough internet or other inexpensive ways)?.</p>
<p>I commonly understand the CC licenses but this one confuse me some times.</p>
<p>Anyway, for personal learning this is a huge contribution by Canonical for us. Thank you so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Une approche communautaire des supports de formation commerciaux</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/134#comment-239731</link>
		<dc:creator>Une approche communautaire des supports de formation commerciaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/134#comment-239731</guid>
		<description>[...] française de l&#8217;article &#8220;A community approach to commercial training materials&#8220;. Auteur : Mark Shuttleworth - Traducteur : Bernard [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] française de l&#8217;article &#8220;A community approach to commercial training materials&#8220;. Auteur : Mark Shuttleworth - Traducteur : Bernard [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Cripto</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/134#comment-239658</link>
		<dc:creator>Cripto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/134#comment-239658</guid>
		<description>Nice nice nice,
thats why Ubuntu will be the greatest Linux ever, it is isnt there already..

Documentation free of a master piece Linux is wonderful. It will permit
those in countries with no access to $$$ schools to lean and become after
very good professionals and maybe ( i hope so ) to return some of the 
investment to ubuntu.

Mark, Canonical, volunteers, congratulations for making the best linux ever,
even greater.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice nice nice,<br />
thats why Ubuntu will be the greatest Linux ever, it is isnt there already..</p>
<p>Documentation free of a master piece Linux is wonderful. It will permit<br />
those in countries with no access to $$$ schools to lean and become after<br />
very good professionals and maybe ( i hope so ) to return some of the<br />
investment to ubuntu.</p>
<p>Mark, Canonical, volunteers, congratulations for making the best linux ever,<br />
even greater.</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/134#comment-231077</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 23:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/134#comment-231077</guid>
		<description>Some friends and me have been teaching Linux courses at the University for years. We used Debian before and now Ubuntu since the first release. The content of our Linux introduction course is quite similar to the Ubuntu desktop course. Can we use Ubuntu's material in our course? I am afraid that the NC clause will prevent from that since instructors get paid, and for the other reasons already mentions.

Is the NC clause intention to prevent the use of the course by instructors, or just to stop book re-selling?
What if I do not like my contributed material to be NC?

All in all, it is a great step for Ubuntu and Linux training in general.

&lt;strong&gt;Mark Shuttleworth says:&lt;/strong&gt; I don't think this prevents you from using the materials, but it will probably require you to check with the folks running the materials. They may decide that the way you are using the materials means you need to license them commercially, or they may not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some friends and me have been teaching Linux courses at the University for years. We used Debian before and now Ubuntu since the first release. The content of our Linux introduction course is quite similar to the Ubuntu desktop course. Can we use Ubuntu&#8217;s material in our course? I am afraid that the NC clause will prevent from that since instructors get paid, and for the other reasons already mentions.</p>
<p>Is the NC clause intention to prevent the use of the course by instructors, or just to stop book re-selling?<br />
What if I do not like my contributed material to be NC?</p>
<p>All in all, it is a great step for Ubuntu and Linux training in general.</p>
<p><strong>Mark Shuttleworth says:</strong> I don&#8217;t think this prevents you from using the materials, but it will probably require you to check with the folks running the materials. They may decide that the way you are using the materials means you need to license them commercially, or they may not.</p>
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		<title>By: Lettre Hebdomadaire Ubuntu n° 71 du 16 au 29 décembre 2007. &#171; Lettre Hebdomadaire Ubuntu</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/134#comment-229895</link>
		<dc:creator>Lettre Hebdomadaire Ubuntu n° 71 du 16 au 29 décembre 2007. &#171; Lettre Hebdomadaire Ubuntu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 17:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/134#comment-229895</guid>
		<description>[...] Chez Canonical, Billy Cina a réalisé des progrès constants afin d&#8217;obtenir un portfolio complet d&#8217;options de formations pour les utilisateurs commerciaux d&#8217;Ubuntu. Les entreprises qui souhaitent voir leur personnel formé de façon rigoureuse, et les individus souhaitant voir leurs compétences sur Ubuntu formalisées, ont besoin d&#8217;une architecture sûre et certifiée pour attester de ces compétences. Ces formations sont en général vendues aux entreprises qui ont adopté une plate-forme ou des outils et qui souhaitent assurer un niveau homogène de compétences pour toute leur organisation. Beaucoup d&#8217;entreprises migrent sur Ubuntu, tant leurs serveurs que leurs postes de travail et la demande de formation augmente en conséquence. Un système pour construire des cours et les administrer est maintenant disponible pour des fournisseurs de formation autorisés. En utilisant une approche communautaire, les supports de formations sont disponibles dans un format ouvert (Docbook), le contenu des cours est disponible dans un dépôt Bazaar public et sous license CC-BY-NC-SA. http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/134 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Chez Canonical, Billy Cina a réalisé des progrès constants afin d&#8217;obtenir un portfolio complet d&#8217;options de formations pour les utilisateurs commerciaux d&#8217;Ubuntu. Les entreprises qui souhaitent voir leur personnel formé de façon rigoureuse, et les individus souhaitant voir leurs compétences sur Ubuntu formalisées, ont besoin d&#8217;une architecture sûre et certifiée pour attester de ces compétences. Ces formations sont en général vendues aux entreprises qui ont adopté une plate-forme ou des outils et qui souhaitent assurer un niveau homogène de compétences pour toute leur organisation. Beaucoup d&#8217;entreprises migrent sur Ubuntu, tant leurs serveurs que leurs postes de travail et la demande de formation augmente en conséquence. Un système pour construire des cours et les administrer est maintenant disponible pour des fournisseurs de formation autorisés. En utilisant une approche communautaire, les supports de formations sont disponibles dans un format ouvert (Docbook), le contenu des cours est disponible dans un dépôt Bazaar public et sous license CC-BY-NC-SA. <a href="http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/134" rel="nofollow">http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/134</a> [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: era</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/134#comment-226085</link>
		<dc:creator>era</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/134#comment-226085</guid>
		<description>This is the Gnu FDL debacle all over again.  I think it's valid and fruitful to view technical prose as quite different from program source code, all the way to having different licensing requirements and therefore a different license.  The purpose of the documentation is to help people learn, and a lot of the contributors would probably feel betrayed if a third party was able to make money off of publishing their book commercially.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the Gnu FDL debacle all over again.  I think it&#8217;s valid and fruitful to view technical prose as quite different from program source code, all the way to having different licensing requirements and therefore a different license.  The purpose of the documentation is to help people learn, and a lot of the contributors would probably feel betrayed if a third party was able to make money off of publishing their book commercially.</p>
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		<title>By: penguin</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/134#comment-224970</link>
		<dc:creator>penguin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 00:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/134#comment-224970</guid>
		<description>Mark Shuttleworth,

Thank you for holding out this long against Microsoft.

Please NEVER sign any agreement with them.

The key to Linux success is AVOIDING THEM AT ALL COSTS!

The only reason Linux is becoming heard is because of YOU and YOUR EFFORTS with Ubuntu Linux! Someone had the strength to push ahead with a vision.

Keep the penguin beak afloat, never give in. I don't care what love lotion offer appears, refuse, resist.

We believe in YOU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Shuttleworth,</p>
<p>Thank you for holding out this long against Microsoft.</p>
<p>Please NEVER sign any agreement with them.</p>
<p>The key to Linux success is AVOIDING THEM AT ALL COSTS!</p>
<p>The only reason Linux is becoming heard is because of YOU and YOUR EFFORTS with Ubuntu Linux! Someone had the strength to push ahead with a vision.</p>
<p>Keep the penguin beak afloat, never give in. I don&#8217;t care what love lotion offer appears, refuse, resist.</p>
<p>We believe in YOU.</p>
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