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	<title>Comments on: Ubuntu&#8217;s Indicator Menus &#8211; Ayatana bearing fruit</title>
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	<description>Planetary perspectives</description>
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		<title>By: LS</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/347/comment-page-2#comment-329254</link>
		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 07:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are occasional problems with indicators not loading properly or doubling themselves.
For instance if i eliminate the login screen (auto-login) then the network indicator will sometimes show up with only half of the icon. These inconsistencies reflect poorly on Ubuntu I believe. Hope they get solved ASAP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are occasional problems with indicators not loading properly or doubling themselves.<br />
For instance if i eliminate the login screen (auto-login) then the network indicator will sometimes show up with only half of the icon. These inconsistencies reflect poorly on Ubuntu I believe. Hope they get solved ASAP.</p>
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		<title>By: Idee da liberare &#171; femtoBlog</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/347/comment-page-2#comment-329065</link>
		<dc:creator>Idee da liberare &#171; femtoBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] occorre dire a che pro è nato tutto ciò: In primis dalla nuova idea partorita da Mark Shuttleworth, di notifiche più utili e user friendly; In secundis ho bisogno d&#8217;esercizio nello scrivere [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] occorre dire a che pro è nato tutto ciò: In primis dalla nuova idea partorita da Mark Shuttleworth, di notifiche più utili e user friendly; In secundis ho bisogno d&#8217;esercizio nello scrivere [...]</p>
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		<title>By: @vicox&#39;s blog &#187; About Todo Lists and Indicators</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/347/comment-page-2#comment-328833</link>
		<dc:creator>@vicox&#39;s blog &#187; About Todo Lists and Indicators</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 02:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Indicators were introduced in Ubuntu with version 9.10 and will sooner or later replace the notification area. Some programs like Rhythmbox, Gwibber and Evolution are already using indicators instead of notification icons (at least in Ubuntu). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Indicators were introduced in Ubuntu with version 9.10 and will sooner or later replace the notification area. Some programs like Rhythmbox, Gwibber and Evolution are already using indicators instead of notification icons (at least in Ubuntu). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Projekt Unity: bardzo lekkie Ubuntu &#124; WebInfo</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/347/comment-page-2#comment-327905</link>
		<dc:creator>Projekt Unity: bardzo lekkie Ubuntu &#124; WebInfo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 23:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] o idei &#8220;indykatorów okienka&#8221;, rozwijanej w ramach projektu o dobitnej nazwie Ayatana (&#8220;sfera [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] o idei &#8220;indykatorów okienka&#8221;, rozwijanej w ramach projektu o dobitnej nazwie Ayatana (&#8220;sfera [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Indicator Applets &#171; Amy&#8217;s Ramblings</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/347/comment-page-2#comment-327640</link>
		<dc:creator>Indicator Applets &#171; Amy&#8217;s Ramblings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 00:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mark Shuttleworth addressed the new indicator applets back in April.&#160; I find his insights great.&#160; I was intrigued by his thought process, and I&#8217;m looking forward to what comes out of it.&#160; Ayatana seems to be a very promising idea and its implementation has been pretty awesome so far.&#160; See also the wiki article for the messaging menu for more information. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mark Shuttleworth addressed the new indicator applets back in April.&nbsp; I find his insights great.&nbsp; I was intrigued by his thought process, and I&#8217;m looking forward to what comes out of it.&nbsp; Ayatana seems to be a very promising idea and its implementation has been pretty awesome so far.&nbsp; See also the wiki article for the messaging menu for more information. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ubuntu 10.10 podría incluir una nueva funcionalidad: Window Indicators</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/347/comment-page-2#comment-327521</link>
		<dc:creator>Ubuntu 10.10 podría incluir una nueva funcionalidad: Window Indicators</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 22:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] para Ubuntu 10.10. Se trata de Window Indicators, un concepto del que el Sr. Shuttleworth habló hace tiempo dentro del marco del Proyecto Ayatana, y que está orientado a mejorar la usabilidad del [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] para Ubuntu 10.10. Se trata de Window Indicators, un concepto del que el Sr. Shuttleworth habló hace tiempo dentro del marco del Proyecto Ayatana, y que está orientado a mejorar la usabilidad del [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Windicators: el panel de sistema, en cada ventana &#124; MuyLinux</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/347/comment-page-2#comment-327354</link>
		<dc:creator>Windicators: el panel de sistema, en cada ventana &#124; MuyLinux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 11:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] habló hace tiempo del llamado Proyecto Ayatana, que estaba orientado a mejorar la usabilidad global del escritorio, y [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] habló hace tiempo del llamado Proyecto Ayatana, que estaba orientado a mejorar la usabilidad global del escritorio, y [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stopped Clock Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/347/comment-page-2#comment-327021</link>
		<dc:creator>Stopped Clock Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 01:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] area where these may prove extremely useful in accessibility. All of this can be done at runtime, no need to deal with two or more icon [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] area where these may prove extremely useful in accessibility. All of this can be done at runtime, no need to deal with two or more icon [...]</p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/347/comment-page-2#comment-326594</link>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 00:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At first I hated the indicator applet, and had disabled it in 9.10. In 10.04 I have turned it back on, and now have come to the following realization:

The indicator applet is fine, the messaging indicator is awful.

The way that indicators work is, in general, pretty good. It does solve some (small) problems that existed with panel applets: consistent clicking, computed placement, etc. But the messaging indicator? I don&#039;t use a thick mail client anymore; when I did use Evolution, I found the messaging indicator a major step back from the old notification icon, which put an envelope in my notification area when I had mail. Now, there&#039;s an icon there all of the time, notification or not, and it has a very subtle change of color when there&#039;s mail.

Like others have said, I don&#039;t like having my IM and email notifications conflated, and again that indicator was far less useful than the real notification icon I&#039;m still using. Maybe it works well for gwibber notifications, but it&#039;s hard to tell because gwibber is constantly crashing.

So, I&#039;m left with a mail icon on my panel that I don&#039;t use. It does, quite literally, nothing. I take that back; it prevents me from using a real mail notifier, because the messaging indicator is there making it far too confusing to tell at a glance if I have new mail or not. The messaging indicator can&#039;t be removed without losing all of the other indicators. But there it is, taking up screen real estate and being ever-so slightly worse than useless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first I hated the indicator applet, and had disabled it in 9.10. In 10.04 I have turned it back on, and now have come to the following realization:</p>
<p>The indicator applet is fine, the messaging indicator is awful.</p>
<p>The way that indicators work is, in general, pretty good. It does solve some (small) problems that existed with panel applets: consistent clicking, computed placement, etc. But the messaging indicator? I don&#8217;t use a thick mail client anymore; when I did use Evolution, I found the messaging indicator a major step back from the old notification icon, which put an envelope in my notification area when I had mail. Now, there&#8217;s an icon there all of the time, notification or not, and it has a very subtle change of color when there&#8217;s mail.</p>
<p>Like others have said, I don&#8217;t like having my IM and email notifications conflated, and again that indicator was far less useful than the real notification icon I&#8217;m still using. Maybe it works well for gwibber notifications, but it&#8217;s hard to tell because gwibber is constantly crashing.</p>
<p>So, I&#8217;m left with a mail icon on my panel that I don&#8217;t use. It does, quite literally, nothing. I take that back; it prevents me from using a real mail notifier, because the messaging indicator is there making it far too confusing to tell at a glance if I have new mail or not. The messaging indicator can&#8217;t be removed without losing all of the other indicators. But there it is, taking up screen real estate and being ever-so slightly worse than useless.</p>
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		<title>By: neilpassage</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/347/comment-page-2#comment-326431</link>
		<dc:creator>neilpassage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 17:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been using 10.04 for a few days now and just love the &#039;buttons&#039; on the left.&#039;

It makes so much sense.

I&#039;m usually on the left side of the screen anyway.

Fantastic job, please keep it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been using 10.04 for a few days now and just love the &#8216;buttons&#8217; on the left.&#8217;</p>
<p>It makes so much sense.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m usually on the left side of the screen anyway.</p>
<p>Fantastic job, please keep it up.</p>
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