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	<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 00:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: I&#8217;m not anti-social; I&#8217;m just not user friendly &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ¿Ubuntu, la Gran Maravilla ?</title>
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		<dc:creator>I&#8217;m not anti-social; I&#8217;m just not user friendly &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ¿Ubuntu, la Gran Maravilla ?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 06:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ví un post afirmando &#8220;Soy de la opinión que Ubuntu no podría existir sin Debian&#8221;. El autor del [...]</description>
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		<title>By: NoUbuntu Conscience Foundation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ¿Ubuntu, la Gran Maravilla ?</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/56#comment-288344</link>
		<dc:creator>NoUbuntu Conscience Foundation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ¿Ubuntu, la Gran Maravilla ?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 06:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ví un post afirmando &#8220;Soy de la opinión que Ubuntu no podría existir sin Debian&#8221;. El autor del [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ubuntu y Debian -</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/56#comment-272620</link>
		<dc:creator>Ubuntu y Debian -</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ví un post afirmando "Soy de la opinión que Ubuntu no podría existir sin Debian". El autor del comentario [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ví un post afirmando &#8220;Soy de la opinión que Ubuntu no podría existir sin Debian&#8221;. El autor del comentario [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Debian and Ubuntu</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/56#comment-249438</link>
		<dc:creator>Debian and Ubuntu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I saw a post stating that &#8220;I’m of the opinion that Ubuntu could not exist without Debian.&#8221; The [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Debian User</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/56#comment-244022</link>
		<dc:creator>Debian User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 00:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for write twice but i didn't find a edit button, i only want to add that i'm using Debian Etch and i'm writing you with the elinks -lite text browser which i recommend to you  all. I want to add that if you send me a mail, can you tell me more text based applications? i like the very ,much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for write twice but i didn&#8217;t find a edit button, i only want to add that i&#8217;m using Debian Etch and i&#8217;m writing you with the elinks -lite text browser which i recommend to you  all. I want to add that if you send me a mail, can you tell me more text based applications? i like the very ,much!</p>
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		<title>By: Debian User</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/56#comment-244010</link>
		<dc:creator>Debian User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 23:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, i know i'm a bit li}ate but reading what you said made me get angry with you (not with ubuntu wich i respect), because you are like  some users that are saying that Debian will die in Ubuntu hands because it poors focus to desktop user, well, let me say something to you, i'm a desktop user, i have debian since 2004 and (for your total surprise) i have fourteen years, yeah, fourteen, i started (like ones) with ubuntu (of course) because he's easy configuration but then i moved to openSUSE and then to mandriva then Gentoo , Guadalinex, and others. Then, i installed Debian and it become my favorite. And don't think that be my age i can't understand you or i can't understand the informatic field, because you are wrong if you think that, i'm starting to program and i expect to be part of the debian community in one or two years. But let's go back to the theme, users like you angry me because i use debian and i know what it is, and i  think that you lie when you say "debian can't do all" why not?? MacOSX do ALL and you can't say that this is false, MACOSX do Everything and it's true so, why debian can't do all?? debian is developed by a very big community that loves free software and believe in it, you know what i mean with big community?? I mean that debian and it packages  are developed by hundreds of hundreds of hundreds of people, Mac don't have a comunnity so big, really?? Then, why debian can't be the supreme master of all?? Because the ubuntu fans like you thinks that with 4 clicks you can do all but it isn't true, you can do it the first time but when a GDM falls in ubuntu or another thing falls, you have to suffer more because 1. you don't have a OS now 2. You have to reconfigure it  again 3. If you had configured it in first place, you'll know how to fix it. that's the simply true, i don't hate ubuntu , i don't, i only  get angry with users like yu, that try to kill in a way too dirty debiabn, like i say, i respect ubuntu, it is very good and all but i prefer debian and how i say, i only get ANGRY WITH USERS THAT SAY BS oof debian. If you want to talk about debian/ubuntu you can mail me at carlos.gottberg@gmail.com but please, don't put dirty words on your mail because i'll not do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, i know i&#8217;m a bit li}ate but reading what you said made me get angry with you (not with ubuntu wich i respect), because you are like  some users that are saying that Debian will die in Ubuntu hands because it poors focus to desktop user, well, let me say something to you, i&#8217;m a desktop user, i have debian since 2004 and (for your total surprise) i have fourteen years, yeah, fourteen, i started (like ones) with ubuntu (of course) because he&#8217;s easy configuration but then i moved to openSUSE and then to mandriva then Gentoo , Guadalinex, and others. Then, i installed Debian and it become my favorite. And don&#8217;t think that be my age i can&#8217;t understand you or i can&#8217;t understand the informatic field, because you are wrong if you think that, i&#8217;m starting to program and i expect to be part of the debian community in one or two years. But let&#8217;s go back to the theme, users like you angry me because i use debian and i know what it is, and i  think that you lie when you say &#8220;debian can&#8217;t do all&#8221; why not?? MacOSX do ALL and you can&#8217;t say that this is false, MACOSX do Everything and it&#8217;s true so, why debian can&#8217;t do all?? debian is developed by a very big community that loves free software and believe in it, you know what i mean with big community?? I mean that debian and it packages  are developed by hundreds of hundreds of hundreds of people, Mac don&#8217;t have a comunnity so big, really?? Then, why debian can&#8217;t be the supreme master of all?? Because the ubuntu fans like you thinks that with 4 clicks you can do all but it isn&#8217;t true, you can do it the first time but when a GDM falls in ubuntu or another thing falls, you have to suffer more because 1. you don&#8217;t have a OS now 2. You have to reconfigure it  again 3. If you had configured it in first place, you&#8217;ll know how to fix it. that&#8217;s the simply true, i don&#8217;t hate ubuntu , i don&#8217;t, i only  get angry with users like yu, that try to kill in a way too dirty debiabn, like i say, i respect ubuntu, it is very good and all but i prefer debian and how i say, i only get ANGRY WITH USERS THAT SAY BS oof debian. If you want to talk about debian/ubuntu you can mail me at <a href="mailto:carlos.gottberg@gmail.com">carlos.gottberg@gmail.com</a> but please, don&#8217;t put dirty words on your mail because i&#8217;ll not do that.</p>
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		<title>By: Dani Revi Ubuntu</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/56#comment-168294</link>
		<dc:creator>Dani Revi Ubuntu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great post by Mark Shuttleworth, on how he thinks of Debian and it’s relationship with Ubuntu....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great post by Mark Shuttleworth, on how he thinks of Debian and it’s relationship with Ubuntu&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jürgen</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/56#comment-60548</link>
		<dc:creator>Jürgen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, i think so too. Ubuntu could not exist without Debian. Great informations. Thanks! Jürgen from Germany</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, i think so too. Ubuntu could not exist without Debian. Great informations. Thanks! Jürgen from Germany</p>
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		<title>By: Ubuntu &#124; Andreas Lloyd: Debian as the research library of Free Software</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/56#comment-40770</link>
		<dc:creator>Ubuntu &#124; Andreas Lloyd: Debian as the research library of Free Software</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 04:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mark Shuttleworth describes this relationship as Debian as &#8220;the Tibetan Plateau of the free software landscape” upon which Ubuntu is built: By contrast with Debian’s Plateau, Ubuntu is a cluster of peaks. By narrowing the focus and allowing the KDE, Gnome and server communities to leverage the base of Debian without treading on one another’s toes, we can create a K2, and a Kangchenjunga and a Lhotse. Ubuntu’s peaks depend on the plateau for their initial start, and their strong base. Ubuntu needs to be humble about its achievements, because much of its elevation comes from Debian. [&#8230;] Many people have asked why I decided to build Ubuntu alongside, or on top of, Debian, rather than trying to get Debian to turn into a peak in its own right. The reason is simple - I believe that Debian’s breadth is too precious to compromise just because one person with resources cares a lot about a few specific use cases. We should not narrow the scope of Debian. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mark Shuttleworth describes this relationship as Debian as &#8220;the Tibetan Plateau of the free software landscape” upon which Ubuntu is built: By contrast with Debian’s Plateau, Ubuntu is a cluster of peaks. By narrowing the focus and allowing the KDE, Gnome and server communities to leverage the base of Debian without treading on one another’s toes, we can create a K2, and a Kangchenjunga and a Lhotse. Ubuntu’s peaks depend on the plateau for their initial start, and their strong base. Ubuntu needs to be humble about its achievements, because much of its elevation comes from Debian. [&#8230;] Many people have asked why I decided to build Ubuntu alongside, or on top of, Debian, rather than trying to get Debian to turn into a peak in its own right. The reason is simple - I believe that Debian’s breadth is too precious to compromise just because one person with resources cares a lot about a few specific use cases. We should not narrow the scope of Debian. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Og så alligevel&#8230; &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Debian as the research library of Free Software</title>
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		<dc:creator>Og så alligevel&#8230; &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Debian as the research library of Free Software</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 11:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mark Shuttleworth describes this relationship as Debian as &#8220;the Tibetan Plateau of the free software landscape” upon which Ubuntu is built: By contrast with Debian’s Plateau, Ubuntu is a cluster of peaks. By narrowing the focus and allowing the KDE, Gnome and server communities to leverage the base of Debian without treading on one another’s toes, we can create a K2, and a Kangchenjunga and a Lhotse. Ubuntu’s peaks depend on the plateau for their initial start, and their strong base. Ubuntu needs to be humble about its achievements, because much of its elevation comes from Debian. [&#8230;] Many people have asked why I decided to build Ubuntu alongside, or on top of, Debian, rather than trying to get Debian to turn into a peak in its own right. The reason is simple - I believe that Debian’s breadth is too precious to compromise just because one person with resources cares a lot about a few specific use cases. We should not narrow the scope of Debian. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mark Shuttleworth describes this relationship as Debian as &#8220;the Tibetan Plateau of the free software landscape” upon which Ubuntu is built: By contrast with Debian’s Plateau, Ubuntu is a cluster of peaks. By narrowing the focus and allowing the KDE, Gnome and server communities to leverage the base of Debian without treading on one another’s toes, we can create a K2, and a Kangchenjunga and a Lhotse. Ubuntu’s peaks depend on the plateau for their initial start, and their strong base. Ubuntu needs to be humble about its achievements, because much of its elevation comes from Debian. [&#8230;] Many people have asked why I decided to build Ubuntu alongside, or on top of, Debian, rather than trying to get Debian to turn into a peak in its own right. The reason is simple - I believe that Debian’s breadth is too precious to compromise just because one person with resources cares a lot about a few specific use cases. We should not narrow the scope of Debian. [...]</p>
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