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	<title>Comments on: #10: Pervasive presence</title>
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	<description>Planetary perspectives</description>
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		<title>By: Damien</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/68/comment-page-1#comment-17707</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 09:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark,

indeed this is a very interesting topic. Some academic research is ongoing on this matter, especially on the European level (and maybe other but I am not award of that). There is a EC Coordination Action which deal with presence which is called PEACH:

http://www.peachbit.org/

I don&#039;t know their involvement with Free Software but I know the coordinators of this project (I have organized a workshop with them). Drop me an email if you want to be put in contact with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark,</p>
<p>indeed this is a very interesting topic. Some academic research is ongoing on this matter, especially on the European level (and maybe other but I am not award of that). There is a EC Coordination Action which deal with presence which is called PEACH:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.peachbit.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.peachbit.org/</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know their involvement with Free Software but I know the coordinators of this project (I have organized a workshop with them). Drop me an email if you want to be put in contact with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan DBB</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/68/comment-page-1#comment-14937</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan DBB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need to sync our different projects together. I mostly feel the need to sync my Nokia with Kontact (or Evolution, I&#039;m willing to switch). 

Syncing pictures is important to people who meet a lot of people all the time (what MS calls &quot;Corridor Warriors&quot; or &quot;Meeting Weenies&quot;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to sync our different projects together. I mostly feel the need to sync my Nokia with Kontact (or Evolution, I&#8217;m willing to switch). </p>
<p>Syncing pictures is important to people who meet a lot of people all the time (what MS calls &#8220;Corridor Warriors&#8221; or &#8220;Meeting Weenies&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: Lesley Clayton</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/68/comment-page-1#comment-14875</link>
		<dc:creator>Lesley Clayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this topic very exciting!  It seems like everything is lining up to produce a &quot;women friendly environment.&quot; With so may options available on how to communicate definitely appeals to my female sensibilties. I am now able through these great tools to invest more highly in my relationships all over the place and to keep them tight!  This developing environment seems to be aligning itself with women&#039;s innate natural skills - we make connections and develop relationships wherever we go. I agree that these com. channels need to be integrated so that they can be managed and enables seamless connection. If I am on the move I don&#039;t want the hassel of changing my setup.  My system must be able to pick up my zone and do the work for me.  This pervasive presence - &quot;is a women&#039;s way of being!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this topic very exciting!  It seems like everything is lining up to produce a &#8220;women friendly environment.&#8221; With so may options available on how to communicate definitely appeals to my female sensibilties. I am now able through these great tools to invest more highly in my relationships all over the place and to keep them tight!  This developing environment seems to be aligning itself with women&#8217;s innate natural skills &#8211; we make connections and develop relationships wherever we go. I agree that these com. channels need to be integrated so that they can be managed and enables seamless connection. If I am on the move I don&#8217;t want the hassel of changing my setup.  My system must be able to pick up my zone and do the work for me.  This pervasive presence &#8211; &#8220;is a women&#8217;s way of being!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: m--s</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/68/comment-page-1#comment-14689</link>
		<dc:creator>m--s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 16:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this is a little off-topic, but could you be so kind to put some commentary on this blog regarding the &quot;bad news&quot; appearing around Ubuntu lately? For example, consider the following link

http://www.nuxified.org/blog/ubuntu_down_the_drain

I mean mainly the free/non-free aspect, also the unstability of edgy ... or maybe you&#039;ve done so already elsewhere, in that case I am sorry, and could you direct me to the correct place?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is a little off-topic, but could you be so kind to put some commentary on this blog regarding the &#8220;bad news&#8221; appearing around Ubuntu lately? For example, consider the following link</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nuxified.org/blog/ubuntu_down_the_drain" rel="nofollow">http://www.nuxified.org/blog/ubuntu_down_the_drain</a></p>
<p>I mean mainly the free/non-free aspect, also the unstability of edgy &#8230; or maybe you&#8217;ve done so already elsewhere, in that case I am sorry, and could you direct me to the correct place?</p>
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		<title>By: David Mackey</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/68/comment-page-1#comment-14081</link>
		<dc:creator>David Mackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 03:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Free software can innovate faster because of its ability to assemble a larger and more diverse crew to handle a project. Presence is a great idea, though I agree, I don&#039;t want to be entirely transparent. I already hate when my cell rings so often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Free software can innovate faster because of its ability to assemble a larger and more diverse crew to handle a project. Presence is a great idea, though I agree, I don&#8217;t want to be entirely transparent. I already hate when my cell rings so often.</p>
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		<title>By: Maimon Mons</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/68/comment-page-1#comment-14028</link>
		<dc:creator>Maimon Mons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besides trust (which is partially solved with whitelisting) is the idea of persistent presence vs. availability.  I don&#039;t want to explicitly state when I am available either on my phone or computer.  Also, the ability to keep multiple computers logged on at a time and move between them without having to log into my IM client on each to say where I am available.

Maybe a smart algorithm that uses time of day in addition to time since last keyboard or mouse event to determine if I am available.  A smart one that says that I am available never available when I am using openoffice.org writer but may be available when using firefox would be nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides trust (which is partially solved with whitelisting) is the idea of persistent presence vs. availability.  I don&#8217;t want to explicitly state when I am available either on my phone or computer.  Also, the ability to keep multiple computers logged on at a time and move between them without having to log into my IM client on each to say where I am available.</p>
<p>Maybe a smart algorithm that uses time of day in addition to time since last keyboard or mouse event to determine if I am available.  A smart one that says that I am available never available when I am using openoffice.org writer but may be available when using firefox would be nice.</p>
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		<title>By: ReapingTimeShallCome</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/68/comment-page-1#comment-13857</link>
		<dc:creator>ReapingTimeShallCome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 00:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sabdfl has a posse</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sabdfl has a posse</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/68/comment-page-1#comment-13849</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google has been doing a lot of work in that area.

Just think of Gmail with its Google Talk and email integration. While viewing an email conversation, you can see a little green dot next to one of the replies, which means the user that sent that particular reply is online. By clicking &quot;Reply to Chat&quot;, you can send an IM in reply to the message, and have it still appear in the context of the email conversation view when it is searched.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google has been doing a lot of work in that area.</p>
<p>Just think of Gmail with its Google Talk and email integration. While viewing an email conversation, you can see a little green dot next to one of the replies, which means the user that sent that particular reply is online. By clicking &#8220;Reply to Chat&#8221;, you can send an IM in reply to the message, and have it still appear in the context of the email conversation view when it is searched.</p>
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		<title>By: Sivan</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/68/comment-page-1#comment-13823</link>
		<dc:creator>Sivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do I smell a spec proposal/placeholder in disguise ? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do I smell a spec proposal/placeholder in disguise ? <img src='http://www.markshuttleworth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Butler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas Butler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>outside of trust the conversation stoppers for me are always , will this desktop work with my mobile/pda. I know ive blogged about this in the past but we really need to see the other device manufacturers pick up a open standard for interfracing with their data such as IP based connectivity over propriatary channels , condiuts or  cables . This particular N Big challenge still has me wondering why all those providers are so keen to be interopable exclusvely to Outlook when it would be just as easy to be interoperable through a network connection  and enable Outlook or other apps to see the data and pass the data. Yep trust issues aside if my phone and pc and pda and online webpresence ( google ? ) could share the same Vcard and Ical data id be closer to nirvana . Cheers for posting these .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>outside of trust the conversation stoppers for me are always , will this desktop work with my mobile/pda. I know ive blogged about this in the past but we really need to see the other device manufacturers pick up a open standard for interfracing with their data such as IP based connectivity over propriatary channels , condiuts or  cables . This particular N Big challenge still has me wondering why all those providers are so keen to be interopable exclusvely to Outlook when it would be just as easy to be interoperable through a network connection  and enable Outlook or other apps to see the data and pass the data. Yep trust issues aside if my phone and pc and pda and online webpresence ( google ? ) could share the same Vcard and Ical data id be closer to nirvana . Cheers for posting these .</p>
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