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		<title>By: Ubuntu post installation setup : newbuntu</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/84/comment-page-2#comment-310298</link>
		<dc:creator>Ubuntu post installation setup : newbuntu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 15:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and also that Ubuntu don&#8217;t include these drivers as part of the free software philosophy (see Ubuntu Founder Mark Shuttleworth&#8217;s blog), however a lot of new users want make use of their graphics card and here is how. Click on the top [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and also that Ubuntu don&#8217;t include these drivers as part of the free software philosophy (see Ubuntu Founder Mark Shuttleworth&#8217;s blog), however a lot of new users want make use of their graphics card and here is how. Click on the top [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dell: one step forward, two steps back &#171; Limulus</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/84/comment-page-2#comment-220328</link>
		<dc:creator>Dell: one step forward, two steps back &#171; Limulus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/84 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Top Linux News &#187; Shuttleworth: Ubuntu has always used proprietary drivers</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/84/comment-page-2#comment-192563</link>
		<dc:creator>Top Linux News &#187; Shuttleworth: Ubuntu has always used proprietary drivers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 11:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] read more &#124; digg story [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Nicolas</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/84/comment-page-2#comment-167920</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicolas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t include the driver if you don&#039;t want, but give the user a easy to get documentation (please, inside the os somehow) so that it is easy to install the driver if he wants to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t include the driver if you don&#8217;t want, but give the user a easy to get documentation (please, inside the os somehow) so that it is easy to install the driver if he wants to.</p>
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		<title>By: Camus SoNiCo &#187; Post Topic &#187; Novell / Microsoft agreements and events.</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/84/comment-page-2#comment-133865</link>
		<dc:creator>Camus SoNiCo &#187; Post Topic &#187; Novell / Microsoft agreements and events.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 03:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mark&#8217;s response to SUSE critics. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mark Shuttleworth gets quote mined &#171; Limulus</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/84/comment-page-2#comment-113229</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Shuttleworth gets quote mined &#171; Limulus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 22:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Ubuntu has included firmware, and used proprietary drivers since its inception. That&#8217;s always been a slightly uncomfortable proposition, as Mako observed, but it&#8217;s been true since the Warty Warthog. [&#8230;] I hear you when you say &#8220;users want proprietary codecs&#8221;. That&#8217;s why we make sure these items ARE available, at the user&#8217;s option, as packages on the network repositories. That allows users who need that functionality, or who choose that functionality over free alternatives, to exercise that choice freely. We don&#8217;t make that choice for them, though of course there is huge demand from real users for that. And we will stay firm in that regard. Ubuntu does not, and will never, include proprietary applications.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;Ubuntu has included firmware, and used proprietary drivers since its inception. That&#8217;s always been a slightly uncomfortable proposition, as Mako observed, but it&#8217;s been true since the Warty Warthog. [&#8230;] I hear you when you say &#8220;users want proprietary codecs&#8221;. That&#8217;s why we make sure these items ARE available, at the user&#8217;s option, as packages on the network repositories. That allows users who need that functionality, or who choose that functionality over free alternatives, to exercise that choice freely. We don&#8217;t make that choice for them, though of course there is huge demand from real users for that. And we will stay firm in that regard. Ubuntu does not, and will never, include proprietary applications.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Don't I already own my drivers?</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/84/comment-page-2#comment-32799</link>
		<dc:creator>Don't I already own my drivers?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry if I missed something, I couldn&#039;t stomach reading all the replies here. I have just one question here as I don&#039;t understand what the whole problem with the proprietary drivers is all about, don&#039;t I already own the rights to the proprietary driver once I purchased the hardware? Why the big deal about shipping these drivers with &quot;free&quot; software, if I don&#039;t have an nVidea card then I won&#039;t be using the proprietary driver that I don&#039;t have rights to (it won&#039;t work too well with my ATI card). If I want to use the proprietary driver for the ATI card I already paid for then where&#039;s the legal problem with shipping a distro with these drivers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry if I missed something, I couldn&#8217;t stomach reading all the replies here. I have just one question here as I don&#8217;t understand what the whole problem with the proprietary drivers is all about, don&#8217;t I already own the rights to the proprietary driver once I purchased the hardware? Why the big deal about shipping these drivers with &#8220;free&#8221; software, if I don&#8217;t have an nVidea card then I won&#8217;t be using the proprietary driver that I don&#8217;t have rights to (it won&#8217;t work too well with my ATI card). If I want to use the proprietary driver for the ATI card I already paid for then where&#8217;s the legal problem with shipping a distro with these drivers?</p>
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		<title>By: OpenIdeas.info &#187; 2006, el año de Linux</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/84/comment-page-2#comment-26161</link>
		<dc:creator>OpenIdeas.info &#187; 2006, el año de Linux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 13:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 1. Éxito y consolidación de Ubuntu: Ubuntu Dapper LTS (6.06)  Ubuntu ha consolidado el concepto de comunidad, y ha invertido el modelo de desarrollo: de geeks para geeks a usuarios comunes exigiendo a los desarrolladores utilidades que quizás no tengan ninguna utilidad práctica (Compiz, Beryl), pero que sintetizan el concepto &#8220;Pretty is a feature&#8221;. Ahora las peleas entre VIM y EMACS han sido desplazadas por si es mejor el tema original café de ubuntu o hacer un nuevo tema azul o si incluir drivers propietarios o no. Además, Ubuntu se ha convertido en una distro dirigida esencialmente por los usuarios, en un sistema transparente de discusión, que, en vez de generar disputas (KDE vs GNOME) ha sabido integrar y dar espacios a todos (Kubuntu, Xubuntu), inclusive cuestionando conceptos que eran dogmas (uso de drivers propietarios). Además, Ubuntu ha tenido éxito al unir un modelo de marketing relativamente barato (U$10 millones es el aporte de su fundador, que ya debe haber recuperado), enfocado principalmente a la distribución, concentrando el desarrollo en una plataforma común y transparente, lo que ha llevado a que el enfoque esté en hacer que las pequeñas cosas funciones bien mas que desarrollar proyectos grandiosos que revolucionen todo. Esta distro es tán versatil que ahora sirve de fundación para nuevas distros, como Mepis o Ulteo, y ha sido la distro reina indiscutida en DistroWatch. Según el propio Shuttleworth, este año Ubuntu tiene al menos 8 millones de usuarios 2. Las grandes empresas comienzan a ceder: Microsoft: - primero despidió a Martin Taylor, autor de la campaña anti-linux Get the Facts - luego abrió un laboratorio de herramientas Opensource: Port25 - Finalizó el año haciendo un acuerdo con Novell donde Microsoft se comprometía a no demandar a Novell siempre y cuando Novell no hiciera nada por lo cual pudiese ser demandada. Como sea, varios clientes corporativos de MS ya comenzaron a migrar a Novell (Fuente) y tiene varias interpretaciones. Una de ellas la dió el mismo Ballmer al afirmar que a partir de ahora Linux pertenece a Windows - comenzó a distribuir su Virtual server gratis (ver en Virtualización) Oracle, por su parte, anunció que dará soporte para el Linux de Red Hat y Microsoft firmó un acuerdo histórico con Novell, al que destina 348 millones de euros, para facilitar la interoperabilidad entre Windows y Linux. Algunos analistas interpretan que &#8216;Linux ha ganado&#8217;; otros temen que las firmas de Bill Gates y Larry Ellison busquen liderar el negocio de Linux. Ahora, hasta el Zune puede correr Linux, y como dicen; un pequeño paso para Linux, pero un gran salto para el Zune [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 1. Éxito y consolidación de Ubuntu: Ubuntu Dapper LTS (6.06)  Ubuntu ha consolidado el concepto de comunidad, y ha invertido el modelo de desarrollo: de geeks para geeks a usuarios comunes exigiendo a los desarrolladores utilidades que quizás no tengan ninguna utilidad práctica (Compiz, Beryl), pero que sintetizan el concepto &#8220;Pretty is a feature&#8221;. Ahora las peleas entre VIM y EMACS han sido desplazadas por si es mejor el tema original café de ubuntu o hacer un nuevo tema azul o si incluir drivers propietarios o no. Además, Ubuntu se ha convertido en una distro dirigida esencialmente por los usuarios, en un sistema transparente de discusión, que, en vez de generar disputas (KDE vs GNOME) ha sabido integrar y dar espacios a todos (Kubuntu, Xubuntu), inclusive cuestionando conceptos que eran dogmas (uso de drivers propietarios). Además, Ubuntu ha tenido éxito al unir un modelo de marketing relativamente barato (U$10 millones es el aporte de su fundador, que ya debe haber recuperado), enfocado principalmente a la distribución, concentrando el desarrollo en una plataforma común y transparente, lo que ha llevado a que el enfoque esté en hacer que las pequeñas cosas funciones bien mas que desarrollar proyectos grandiosos que revolucionen todo. Esta distro es tán versatil que ahora sirve de fundación para nuevas distros, como Mepis o Ulteo, y ha sido la distro reina indiscutida en DistroWatch. Según el propio Shuttleworth, este año Ubuntu tiene al menos 8 millones de usuarios 2. Las grandes empresas comienzan a ceder: Microsoft: &#8211; primero despidió a Martin Taylor, autor de la campaña anti-linux Get the Facts &#8211; luego abrió un laboratorio de herramientas Opensource: Port25 &#8211; Finalizó el año haciendo un acuerdo con Novell donde Microsoft se comprometía a no demandar a Novell siempre y cuando Novell no hiciera nada por lo cual pudiese ser demandada. Como sea, varios clientes corporativos de MS ya comenzaron a migrar a Novell (Fuente) y tiene varias interpretaciones. Una de ellas la dió el mismo Ballmer al afirmar que a partir de ahora Linux pertenece a Windows &#8211; comenzó a distribuir su Virtual server gratis (ver en Virtualización) Oracle, por su parte, anunció que dará soporte para el Linux de Red Hat y Microsoft firmó un acuerdo histórico con Novell, al que destina 348 millones de euros, para facilitar la interoperabilidad entre Windows y Linux. Algunos analistas interpretan que &#8216;Linux ha ganado&#8217;; otros temen que las firmas de Bill Gates y Larry Ellison busquen liderar el negocio de Linux. Ahora, hasta el Zune puede correr Linux, y como dicen; un pequeño paso para Linux, pero un gran salto para el Zune [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/84/comment-page-2#comment-24528</link>
		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 21:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naming this &quot;AcceleratedX&quot; is confusing.  When I first saw links to this page, I thought you guys must have made a deal with the company which makes &quot;AcceleratedX&quot; graphics drivers for Linux.   But after reading through the various forums, it doesn&#039;t appear that&#039;s the case, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naming this &#8220;AcceleratedX&#8221; is confusing.  When I first saw links to this page, I thought you guys must have made a deal with the company which makes &#8220;AcceleratedX&#8221; graphics drivers for Linux.   But after reading through the various forums, it doesn&#8217;t appear that&#8217;s the case, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/84/comment-page-2#comment-23800</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 00:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,
 I wonder if the approach of asking the proprietary driver vendors to try just opening up &#039;a bit more&#039; of their source on each release would get any where?
As I understand it Nvidia use a source wrapper around a binary blob; now perhaps they could be persuaded to nibble away at the binary blob and try and find
just a bit more code each time that actually isn&#039;t secret and could move into the source section.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,<br />
 I wonder if the approach of asking the proprietary driver vendors to try just opening up &#8216;a bit more&#8217; of their source on each release would get any where?<br />
As I understand it Nvidia use a source wrapper around a binary blob; now perhaps they could be persuaded to nibble away at the binary blob and try and find<br />
just a bit more code each time that actually isn&#8217;t secret and could move into the source section.</p>
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