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		<title>By: LINUX SYSADMIN - Skype Technologies OÜ</title>
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		<dc:creator>LINUX SYSADMIN - Skype Technologies OÜ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mark Shuttleworth » Blog Archive » Clarification on Feisty’s &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mark Shuttleworth gets quote mined &#171; Limulus</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/95/comment-page-1#comment-113225</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Shuttleworth gets quote mined &#171; Limulus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 22:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;we have joined FFII and other organisations that are fighting software patents&#8220; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Luis Villa&#8217;s Blog / notes on my adventures in fedora-land</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/95/comment-page-1#comment-104363</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis Villa&#8217;s Blog / notes on my adventures in fedora-land</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 16:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve been irritated for a while by some of Mark&#8217;s positions on &#8216;freedom&#8217; (slamming Red Hat for non-freeness while seriously considering binary drivers and encouraging free software projects to rely on proprietary software for development), and obviously if I&#8217;m working for Red Hat, I should eat my own dogfood. So yesterday I spent a few hours installing Fedora for the first time&#8230; well, since roughly around when I ate my shorts. (NB: I can&#8217;t find a link or picture of that; if someone still has them, I&#8217;d like a copy.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;ve been irritated for a while by some of Mark&#8217;s positions on &#8216;freedom&#8217; (slamming Red Hat for non-freeness while seriously considering binary drivers and encouraging free software projects to rely on proprietary software for development), and obviously if I&#8217;m working for Red Hat, I should eat my own dogfood. So yesterday I spent a few hours installing Fedora for the first time&#8230; well, since roughly around when I ate my shorts. (NB: I can&#8217;t find a link or picture of that; if someone still has them, I&#8217;d like a copy.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ubuntu Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Proprietary video drivers not default in Feisty</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/95/comment-page-1#comment-101990</link>
		<dc:creator>Ubuntu Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Proprietary video drivers not default in Feisty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 12:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Read more in the initial announcement and a clarifying blog entry from Mark Shuttleworth. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: gpl.is.free &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Le prochain Ubuntu sera un « Gibbon Glouton»</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/95/comment-page-1#comment-74026</link>
		<dc:creator>gpl.is.free &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Le prochain Ubuntu sera un « Gibbon Glouton»</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] En d&#8217;autres termes, tout comme il existe déjà Kubuntu, Xubuntu ou encore Edubuntu, Gutsy Gibbon devrait être décliné en une version qui sera à même de satisfaire les tenants d&#8217;une « interprétation super-stricte du terme &#8220;libre&#8221; dans &#8220;logiciel libre&#8221; ». Cette mouture d&#8217;Ubuntu devrait voir le jour en collaboration avec GNewSense, une distribution entièrement libre elle-même dérivée&#8230; d&#8217;Ubuntu 6.06 LTS et de Debian ! Les efforts, que Mark Shuttleworth annonçait au mois de février dernier (à la fin de la note), pour produire une version d&#8217;Ubuntu plus dans l&#8217;esprit de la FSF semblent donc avoir aboutis, et on ne peut que s&#8217;en réjouir. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] En d&#8217;autres termes, tout comme il existe déjà Kubuntu, Xubuntu ou encore Edubuntu, Gutsy Gibbon devrait être décliné en une version qui sera à même de satisfaire les tenants d&#8217;une « interprétation super-stricte du terme &#8220;libre&#8221; dans &#8220;logiciel libre&#8221; ». Cette mouture d&#8217;Ubuntu devrait voir le jour en collaboration avec GNewSense, une distribution entièrement libre elle-même dérivée&#8230; d&#8217;Ubuntu 6.06 LTS et de Debian ! Les efforts, que Mark Shuttleworth annonçait au mois de février dernier (à la fin de la note), pour produire une version d&#8217;Ubuntu plus dans l&#8217;esprit de la FSF semblent donc avoir aboutis, et on ne peut que s&#8217;en réjouir. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Balaji Ramasubramanian</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/95/comment-page-1#comment-68110</link>
		<dc:creator>Balaji Ramasubramanian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2007 06:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an Edgy Eft user and would like to get the following things cleared up before I make a decision on Fiesty Fawn. Actually, I do not plan to install Fiesty till it is deemed stable. 

1. First is it a stable way to upgrade to Fiesty than to do a fresh install. I hate doing the latter since I have a lot of my own softwares and preferences setup on the shell that I would not want to be changed. I have also installed some softwares that don&#039;t come along with the Ubuntu repos. Some are sources compiled (Berkeley SPICE and Magic) on my laptop and the others are installed using the Autopackage feature. (http://www.autopackage.org) 
2. I wanted to know what all hardware support that was available in Edgy Eft are known to break in Fiesty. This is critical because I am using nVIDIA drivers for my X, and am having to use the ndiswrapper utility to rip the Windows compatible Broadcomm 43xx driver. I don&#039;t want support for these to break. 
3. Printer and scanner support is next. I would like to make sure my Office suite does not get handicapped. 
4. Support for Cameras, USB disks, Media cards etc. Of these I find that Edgy has support for only the first two and the Media cards are simply unusable till now. I would like to have support for this feature since I would want to share photos and videos between my devices and laptop in an easier manner. I was traveling once and found that I could not transfer the photos on my camera to my laptop, because I forgot the get the mounting station. If support/drivers for the Media card reader (my laptop has all SD, xD and MD card readers) is included it will be a great step towards better usability.
5. People love sound - it feels like the computer is talking to you - and hate to find it not working well on their machines. I have personally installed Ubuntu on many neighbors&#039; machines convincing them of how much better than Windows it is, but my credibility goes for a toss if sound does not come up immediately. Also, I can&#039;t switch between my laptop speakers and headphones easily. The support for this in Windows is just a killer. Finally, I have not been able to use my laptop&#039;s microphone ever since I migrated to Ubuntu. I would like to have support for this in the next version. 
6. Bluetooth and IR are a set of peripherals that must be supported right out of the box. I had to practically work my way out to fix the Bluetooth. I find my IR non-responsive, but it worked like a piece of cake in Windows. 

In general, I like Ubuntu, for various reasons, and most important of all, my research work is supported majorly by Linux. I donated some money for Ubuntu, but wanted to mention what all features I would want in next releases. Being an engineer myself, I write simple Perl scripts to do certain simple tasks, but avoid writing long pieces of C code. I would like to contribute too, but would be able to do so much better if a good deal of support for making packages is found. 

If all these bugs are resolved, we would have lesser trouble tackling Bug #1. On the whole, Ubuntu is great, but it needs to work on hardware compatibility a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an Edgy Eft user and would like to get the following things cleared up before I make a decision on Fiesty Fawn. Actually, I do not plan to install Fiesty till it is deemed stable. </p>
<p>1. First is it a stable way to upgrade to Fiesty than to do a fresh install. I hate doing the latter since I have a lot of my own softwares and preferences setup on the shell that I would not want to be changed. I have also installed some softwares that don&#8217;t come along with the Ubuntu repos. Some are sources compiled (Berkeley SPICE and Magic) on my laptop and the others are installed using the Autopackage feature. (<a href="http://www.autopackage.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.autopackage.org</a>)<br />
2. I wanted to know what all hardware support that was available in Edgy Eft are known to break in Fiesty. This is critical because I am using nVIDIA drivers for my X, and am having to use the ndiswrapper utility to rip the Windows compatible Broadcomm 43xx driver. I don&#8217;t want support for these to break.<br />
3. Printer and scanner support is next. I would like to make sure my Office suite does not get handicapped.<br />
4. Support for Cameras, USB disks, Media cards etc. Of these I find that Edgy has support for only the first two and the Media cards are simply unusable till now. I would like to have support for this feature since I would want to share photos and videos between my devices and laptop in an easier manner. I was traveling once and found that I could not transfer the photos on my camera to my laptop, because I forgot the get the mounting station. If support/drivers for the Media card reader (my laptop has all SD, xD and MD card readers) is included it will be a great step towards better usability.<br />
5. People love sound &#8211; it feels like the computer is talking to you &#8211; and hate to find it not working well on their machines. I have personally installed Ubuntu on many neighbors&#8217; machines convincing them of how much better than Windows it is, but my credibility goes for a toss if sound does not come up immediately. Also, I can&#8217;t switch between my laptop speakers and headphones easily. The support for this in Windows is just a killer. Finally, I have not been able to use my laptop&#8217;s microphone ever since I migrated to Ubuntu. I would like to have support for this in the next version.<br />
6. Bluetooth and IR are a set of peripherals that must be supported right out of the box. I had to practically work my way out to fix the Bluetooth. I find my IR non-responsive, but it worked like a piece of cake in Windows. </p>
<p>In general, I like Ubuntu, for various reasons, and most important of all, my research work is supported majorly by Linux. I donated some money for Ubuntu, but wanted to mention what all features I would want in next releases. Being an engineer myself, I write simple Perl scripts to do certain simple tasks, but avoid writing long pieces of C code. I would like to contribute too, but would be able to do so much better if a good deal of support for making packages is found. </p>
<p>If all these bugs are resolved, we would have lesser trouble tackling Bug #1. On the whole, Ubuntu is great, but it needs to work on hardware compatibility a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Carey</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/95/comment-page-1#comment-61800</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Carey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 01:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Appears Fiesty does not enable CONFIG_DEBUG_FS in kernel, can this be enabled so every fiesty system can be used for mimo tracing to help nouveau?

See this bug on launchpad for more info

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/93489

&lt;strong&gt;Mark Shuttleworth days:&lt;/strong&gt;

I discussed this with Ben Collins, who leads the kernel team in Ubuntu, who says:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;Yeah, I&#039;ll have it enabled for post-beta (which should mean it will be
available in RC).&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
So, you&#039;re in luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appears Fiesty does not enable CONFIG_DEBUG_FS in kernel, can this be enabled so every fiesty system can be used for mimo tracing to help nouveau?</p>
<p>See this bug on launchpad for more info</p>
<p><a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/93489" rel="nofollow">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/93489</a></p>
<p><strong>Mark Shuttleworth days:</strong></p>
<p>I discussed this with Ben Collins, who leads the kernel team in Ubuntu, who says:</p>
<blockquote>
<pre>Yeah, I'll have it enabled for post-beta (which should mean it will be
available in RC).</pre>
</blockquote>
<p>So, you&#8217;re in luck!</p>
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		<title>By: ][ stefano maffulli &#187; links for 2007-02-21</title>
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		<dc:creator>][ stefano maffulli &#187; links for 2007-02-21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 12:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Clarification on Feisty’s proprietary drivers Shuttleworth chiarisce la posizione di Ubuntu e driver proprietari (tags: ubuntu drivers hardware gnu/linux freedom Shuttleworth patents) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Grove</title>
		<link>http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/95/comment-page-1#comment-48264</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Grove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beyond drivers, Ubuntu faces the challenge of manageability - keeping systems running properly. This is particularly true in the developing world where the knowledge of Linux, Debian, and systems is limited. There is a golden opportunity for Ubuntu to capture the high ground as no OS vendor offers easy to use remote systems management that works across a broad array of Linux and Windows distributions. If you believe Henry Chesbough, and I do, the competitive game is shifting from technology and services to business architectures and models - see his new book, Open Business Models. He points out Ryan Air as a profitable newbe in the airline world where passengers can fly for a Euro plus fees. (That caught my eye and behold it is true. My family of 4 is flying from Marseilles to Rome and back in June for about $200 in total. How do they make money? Change in business model where remote airports like Marseilles pays Ryan for passengers.) So, why should this matter for Ubuntu? Because if Ubuntu can solve end user customer problems by distributing the knowhow and solution repository of experts, bingo, there is a powerful revenue model that follows Metcalfe Economics - the more that play, the better it pays for those who play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beyond drivers, Ubuntu faces the challenge of manageability &#8211; keeping systems running properly. This is particularly true in the developing world where the knowledge of Linux, Debian, and systems is limited. There is a golden opportunity for Ubuntu to capture the high ground as no OS vendor offers easy to use remote systems management that works across a broad array of Linux and Windows distributions. If you believe Henry Chesbough, and I do, the competitive game is shifting from technology and services to business architectures and models &#8211; see his new book, Open Business Models. He points out Ryan Air as a profitable newbe in the airline world where passengers can fly for a Euro plus fees. (That caught my eye and behold it is true. My family of 4 is flying from Marseilles to Rome and back in June for about $200 in total. How do they make money? Change in business model where remote airports like Marseilles pays Ryan for passengers.) So, why should this matter for Ubuntu? Because if Ubuntu can solve end user customer problems by distributing the knowhow and solution repository of experts, bingo, there is a powerful revenue model that follows Metcalfe Economics &#8211; the more that play, the better it pays for those who play.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Dolan Dot Com &#187; Ubuntu free vs proprietary drivers debate (seems to have) reached conclusion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Dolan Dot Com &#187; Ubuntu free vs proprietary drivers debate (seems to have) reached conclusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There was a spur of &#8220;confusion&#8221; after I thought the original discussion was &#8220;over&#8221;&#8230; but apparently the debate raged on. I see now that there has been clarification by Mark and a matching Tech Board decision. [...]</description>
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