Hammering on the Heron

Monday, April 7th, 2008

Reports of beta testing for 8.04 LTS seem very positive all round, to the great credit of the desktop and server teams who have been working so hard to make Hardy Heron rock. I have been running Hardy on my laptop through most of the cycle, but took the plunge on my home firewall and desktop (Kubuntu) machine this weekend.

The coolest part of the firewall upgrade is the fact that Michael has made the release upgrade tool independent of the GUI, so you can use it for server upgrades too.

So, now would be a great time to test the upgrade! File bugs if you run into any issues with your particular configuration. Apparently, this is upported on both Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper) and Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), so feedback on either upgrade path would be most welcome.

sudo aptitude install update-manager-core

That should make sure you have the release upgrade tool installed. Now you can trigger the upgrade process to the current beta:

sudo do-release-upgrade --devel-release

This should fetch the latest version of the update tool, which knows about various transitions in library versions etc so that it can attempt to update your machine smoothly without leaving large amounts of dangling packages. You can say “no” if you don’t like the proposed package install and removal plan (in which case, your feedback would be very valuable!).

For fresh installs, 8.04 LTS should be good to go on any high-volume server platform available in the market today – let the server team know if you run into any problems at all. They are hoping to meet the desktop team’s “Just Works” standard, so the bar is set pretty high. From my perspective, the upgrade was smooth – full marks and my thanks to everyone involved.

19 Responses to “Hammering on the Heron”

  1. EMONG Says:

    So aptitude is the standard management tool now? It seems I missed it, so it would be nice to see a official statement regarding “apt-get” and “aptitude”. It’s just not very wise to mix both tools.

    Mark Shuttleworth says: I use aptitude, as I prefer it to the raw apt-get. I don’t know what happens if you mix them, but I can recommend aptitude, it’s an excellent console tool for managing your package set.

  2. Garoth Says:

    I agree, Heron is pretty nice. I’m using it also.

    Watch out for gOS, though, Mark. They have some seriously good marketing/style going for them.

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  4. Baba Says:

    You said that you tested Kubuntu, and about Ubuntu? You should try! It is a success!

  5. 2U Says:

    until now, when clicking resource tab on system monitor, CPU is 100% usage

  6. Barbie Says:

    Greek it’s all Greek to me!

  7. specialj Says:

    I have not had the same luck. I’ve been running it on my firewall machine (as well as a development server and several virtual instances) and found that the networking was totally broken in the last 2.6.24-15 kernel. I haven’t had the courage to try the one released today but hope it’s better (2.6.24-14 seems to work fine). I’ve also gone back through as many of the bugs as I could remember either reporting or contributing to for gutsy as well as reporting new ones I have found in hardy. Of the dozen or so I’ve been tracking only 1 so far has been fixed (though half of them are not important). Of particular importance to any firewall machine is that the tc command segfaults (on amd64 anyway). While I’m satisfied with Ubuntu/Kubuntu on the desktop I’m having doubts as to its readiness for the server. The admittedly incomplete list of bugs I’m tracking can be found here:

  8. V Says:

    @EMONG: nothing bad happens if you mix aptitude and apt-get commands; they’re both front-ends to the same system, and the package system ensures that it is in a consistent state before & after transactions.

  9. Perry E. Metzger Says:

    I left a bug report a week ago about a fatal problem running a laptop under Hardy, and it is still marked “incomplete” even though I did everything I was instructed to do to make it complete report.

    I still have a bug report outstanding for nearly a year marked both “confirmed” and yet “importance undecided” — at the very least, someone should have marked it for importance long ago.

    If you’re going to suggest that people leave bug reports, you also have to make sure people are processing the bug reports in a timely manner. Note I’m not saying *fixing* the bug reports, just *processing* them so that they’re properly categorized, assigned, etc.

    Please don’t take this the wrong way — I love Ubuntu — but the quality control benefit of bug reporting can’t be realized if the bug reports aren’t processed reliably.

  10. Steinar Says:

    Will Firefox ver. 3 still be the default browser? According to the plans, Firefox 3 will be released during June.

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  14. Joergen Ramskov Says:

    Upgraded from Gutsy to Hardy the other day. I haven’t noticed any problems so far. Well done Ubuntu teams!

  15. Leo Says:

    Baba: I think the founder of ubuntu already explain that he use ubuntu on his laptop and kububtu on his desktop. Mark, can you confirm it before the troll? Thanks!

    Mark Shuttleworth says: I don’t think anyone was trolling! I have an Ubuntu laptop (Dell M1330, new box with a great LED screen though I’m still adjusting to the mousepad). I have a Kubuntu desktop, which I’m in the process of rebuilding inside an Alienware modded gaming system – boots Vista occasionally. And I have a Mac desktop at home too, which I use for video editing.

  16. Limulus Says:

    Steinar wrote: “Will Firefox ver. 3 still be the default browser? According to the plans, Firefox 3 will be released during June.”

    Yes, FF3 will still be the default; remember that Hardy is going to be a LTS release, so supported for two years on the desktop: in two years from now, FF2 will just be a memory (unsupported by Mozilla 😉 Note further that according to the Hardy release schedule (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule) that there will be an 8.04.1 (SP1 in Microspeak 😉 at the very beginning of July, so that will almost certainly have the final FF3. The betas are quite good though, so no worries. The only problems I’ve had in Hardy concerning Firefox involve Adobe’s Flash plugin (if only they’d open source it… sigh. Ah well; Gnash seems to be improving these days 🙂

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