Celebrating Gnome 3.0
Thursday, April 7th, 2011Congratulations to everyone who has worked so hard to make Gnome 3.0 a reality. It’s a great accomplishment, excellent work by many people, and worthy of celebration. I know the PPA is popular and I’m sure it will be a hit in 11.10. Well done all!
April 28th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
[…] Unity ad ora non fa concorrenza a Gnome 3, manco di striscio caro Mark. E caro capo non credo tu sia realmente felice del rilascio di Gnome 3. Ma un capo fa questo e altro. Dove vogliamo andare? Ubuntu piaceva e piace […]
April 28th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
Please make the big switch to Wayland in Ubuntu 11.10.
April 29th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Mark, Are u man enough to give an option during install to the users(freedom) to chose between gnome 3.0 and unity *.*?
Do u feel ashamed in calling ur product Ubuntu GNU/Linux?
Dont u think u should thank communities other than U(r)buntu?
btw, congrats on putting out one more experimental shell on the users.
April 29th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
@srinivas
I don’t think adding complexity to an install is macho. Do you? By all means, make your own Linux distribution, and add that option. Every Ubuntu user has the easy choice of lots of alternative shells and desktop environments, that’s part of the great thing about Ubuntu. Almost everything is one apt-get away, and if something you care about isn’t, it’s an open environment for your to help others get it too, just step up and participate.
As for your other questions… no, I feel no shame in the fact that Ubuntu is built on GNU and Linux. I also don’t think the people behind those initiatives are so insecure as to feel left out when we don’t put their brand in our brand. You, and every other GNU or Linux fanboy knows exactly what’s GNU and what’s Linux, so there is no benefit to shouting it out. New users who may become contributors to those initiatives will quickly figure it out. And we won’t turn off potential users with a flurry of terminology they don’t understand. All in all, Ubuntu’s track record for bringing new users and contributors to GNU, Linux and Debian is very good. I doubt your whining is much of a help in that regard, but perhaps I’m mistaken and I’d gladly stand corrected if you have facts to back it up.
As for thanking other communities, yes, we do that, all the time in many ways. Lots of those communities work hard to make sure their stuff is fully and properly reflected in Ubuntu as a result. I don’t think you have any point here, other than perhaps to try and be mean and a smart-ass. You succeed admirably on two out of three counts: mean, and an ass.
Mark
April 30th, 2011 at 5:42 am
At present enjoying both unity and gnome 3 on separate partitions.Mark it’ll be great if you can borrow some of the best features of gnome 3 in unity.Keep the good work going.
May 1st, 2011 at 2:30 am
Having test driven both Unity and Gnome 3 for a couple of weeks, I can’t for the life of me understand the decision to implement Unity over Gnome 3. Simply put, Gnome 3 is the most polished, elegant, and functional desktop environment I have ever used. I wish I could say that about Unity, but I can’t.
When I sit down and use Gnome 3 I get the feeling that someone stepped back from the table and asked, “How can we re-invent the desktop environment in such a way that users have a fundamentally more enjoyable and productive experience?” It seems they put away all preconceived notions and built from the ground up with the user in mind. The result is something completely innovative that has indeed enhanced both my productivity and my overall computing experience.
When I sit down with Unity, I get the feeling that someone said, “Here’s an idea from Macintosh that works well. Here’s one from Windows. Oh, and let’s grab this piece from Gnome 2. Also–let’s try to make it so it can someday be utilized on a smart phone.” The result is a product that feels cobbled together when compared to Gnome 3.
Mark, I know you saw something or experienced something in Gnome 3 that gave you pause, and I have no doubt that you will bring Unity around–even if it means trying to out-Gnome Gnome. But honestly, the best thing you could do for the Linux community is kiss and make up with Gnome and implement Gnome 3. As for me, I’ve moved to Fedora for a season because of the beautiful way they’ve implemented Gnome 3. But having said that, I’d be lying if I said that installing Fedora wasn’t a PITA. I’m hoping that in the near future Gnome 3 will be implemented in either Ubuntu or Mint. Ubuntu has been home for me for a very long time, but I feel like in this case there has been great duplication of effort only to arrive at a significantly inferior product. No offense intended, just my heartfelt opinion.
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Which is better? Gnome 3 by a mile. By a hundred miles.
Having test driven both Unity and Gnome 3 for a couple of weeks, I can’t for the life of me understand the decision to implement Unity over Gnome 3. Simply put, Gnome 3 is the most polished, elegant, and functional desktop environment I have ever used.
When I sit down and use Gnome 3 I get the feeling that someone stepped back from the table and asked, “How can we re-invent the desktop environment in such a way that users have a fundamentally more enjoyable and productive experience?” It seems they put away all preconceived notions and built from the ground up with the user in mind. The result is something completely innovative that has indeed enhanced both my productivity and my overall computing experience.
When I sit down with Unity, I get the feeling that someone said, “Here’s an idea from Macintosh that works well. Here’s one from Windows. Oh, and let’s grab this piece from Gnome 2. Also–let’s try to make it so it can someday be utilized on a smart phone.” The result is a product that feels cobbled together when compared to Gnome 3.
Although these two desktop environments may appear similar, they are remarkably different. One is a work of art. The other is a Frankenstein.
May 4th, 2011 at 11:51 am
@ Mark
Everything is not apt-get away. It has to be brought to that stage by hundreds/thousands of developers. shooing me away by comments which are not “filtered” will not make everything else right.
Come on Mark, Now, who is insecure. U are facing the insecurity of losing new “customers” for ur operating system. As for us “fan boys” we will always fight for “powered by GNU/Linux” label to appear wherever it is used. Suddenly u seem to be upset by the word GNU/Linux. Dont forget that your product aint anything except GNU/Linux unless u develop all the userland and the kernel urself.
Please do continue showing ur “mean” side to the world. I am happy that I have succeeded in exposing that.
May 4th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Installed Gnome-Shell 3 yesterday! Looks great! Awesome experience! Congratulations to the gnome developers! Thank you so much!
May 13th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
Hi Mark –
I just wanted to say well done. I tested Natty Narwhal in Alpha and was skeptical & worried about it’s release. However, after using it for a good while now — I can say, well done. Great leap forward with Unity imho.
Cheers,
Nathan Greenlee
June 2nd, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Any desktop environment without a complete menus is going to be rather useless and moreover very user unfriendly. I like to see my entire desktop in a glance. That’s why I like the traditional Gnome 2 look and feel. I suggest that Unity use the Canonical logo in the upper left hand corner to bring out the wiper as sort of an Apple Menu of favorite applications. The Gnome top and bottom panels should remain as they provide the most efficient feedback to the user in regards to the state of the system. The purpose of a desktop is largely to launch programs and and easily keep track of the programs that are running and the “windows” that are open. A large annoying wiper moving in and out on the left hand side of the screen just doesn’t cut it. I migrated to Ubuntu from Sidux when KDE 4 became the Sidux default. If Unity isn’t drastically improved or abandoned entirely, I will once again be migrating to something better. The biggest problem with “GNU”Linux is the monkeys who control the repositories. They can kill a quality distribution very quickly.
September 17th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
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